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grim78
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#31 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:03 am

I don't have a strong opinion about the new system, but I must say that the old system was terrible after the introduction of cities. The large destro and order guilds concerted the zone flips for rewards multiple times a day in the hope of starting a city. It was quite obvious and it ruined the oRvR. While I don't have a solution in mind, merely reverting to the old system can not be the answer? If I had to choose between the two, I would go with the new system without hesitation.

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Phantasm
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#32 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:07 am

Evilspinnre wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:21 am
Garamore wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 5:39 pm We have had the scheduled cities for a while and its not really met its aim of getting more competitive fights. This came at the cost of taking away any meaning for the campaign which kept people in the lakes. Given its pretty similar to prior where theres maybe 1 org city and 1 pug city that has a close fight and the rest are just stomps can we go back to the campaign as it was.
I'd say mega zergs keep people from the lakes more than scheduled cities, imagine 4 organised warbands blobbing endlessly and never splitting.
Blobing to avoid death is another issue of current RoR state. On live there was an addon Damaz Kron but you only saw your death/kill ratio, here in RoR we have all public records and low kill/death ratio became an equivalent of bad player. As most dont want to be labeled, they blob. If you remove deaths from killboard you can avoid shaming. Also some form of counter zerg mechanic must be implemented but it takes time, which devs have scarse amount.

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Evilspinnre
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#33 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:13 am

Nothing to do with the killboard - just player and warband leader mentality. I have seen numerous organised wbs of known guilds run away from wb v wb fights and only return with 2:1 numbers over the past few weeks. And then they complain they get farmed in city when it's 24v24.
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Phantasm
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#34 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:35 am

Evilspinnre wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 10:13 am Nothing to do with the killboard - just player and warband leader mentality. I have seen numerous organised wbs of known guilds run away from wb v wb fights and only return with 2:1 numbers over the past few weeks. And then they complain they get farmed in city when it's 24v24.
Do you blame them they dont want to play your game? Land in numerous videos and hearing laughs, mocks, seeing corpse jumps? Without TUP there would be no Evilspinre.

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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#35 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:38 am

Phantasm wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 10:35 am Do you blame them they dont want to play your game? Land in numerous videos and hearing laughs, mocks, seeing corpse jumps? Without TUP there would be no Evilspinre.
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Evilspinnre
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#36 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:40 am

True, fighting them in RvR for ages forced me to become a better player ;)
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Sulorie
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#37 » Fri May 05, 2023 11:29 am

Garamore wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:15 am No its about getting people into rvr. Fort is a tiny percentage of time compared to rvr. If you want to sit out and just fort log then yes you cant do that under this. Just come rvr before. That way the zones may be defended instead of people just letting it go as they know the fort farm will be easy
There are many more activities in this game, not only rvr. The people joining late have no contribution and can only enter, when not enough "rvr-players" join fort. This is already working as intended. Your suggestion leads to even less defenders and much easier fort takes for the zerg side.
There are zero positive results with your suggestion.
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Mvl130
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#38 » Fri May 05, 2023 11:43 am

You can rebuild the campaign as you want the issue is that the fights are not challenging, its either stomp or get stomped, which is very boring in both situations. Scenarios suffer from the same problem, the entire game suffers from it.

From what I noticed in scenarios this problem is way worse in tier 4 than in midtier, so maybe this whole unbalanced fights situation has to do with end game gear giving too much power

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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#39 » Fri May 05, 2023 12:04 pm

Sulorie wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 11:29 am
Garamore wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:15 am No its about getting people into rvr. Fort is a tiny percentage of time compared to rvr. If you want to sit out and just fort log then yes you cant do that under this. Just come rvr before. That way the zones may be defended instead of people just letting it go as they know the fort farm will be easy
There are many more activities in this game, not only rvr. The people joining late have no contribution and can only enter, when not enough "rvr-players" join fort. This is already working as intended. Your suggestion leads to even less defenders and much easier fort takes for the zerg side.
There are zero positive results with your suggestion.
The positive is encouraging people into rvr prior to forts. Most forts these days dont soft cap either side before they pop as there is almost no zone progression in prime time so there is plenty of chance to sit out rvr and join or xrealm to defend.
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Evilspinnre
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Re: Can we have the old campaign back

Post#40 » Fri May 05, 2023 12:29 pm

Most of the forts Gara does are after primetime when wbs have logged due to getting late or boredom from zerg/hiding, primetime forts are always full
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