I doubt order is gonna stop cause ppl complain in the forumsNidwin wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:23 am @Wam
EU primetime isn't the issue, never was actually. It's those 20 other hours a day that has become problematic on destruction side.
We have reached the point that the main concern for destro players when a zone opens is to reach our keep in time for "defense". And by defense I mean try to get some kills before being roflstomped by order once the inner door is down.

in general / @OP:
be the change you want to see.
organize yourself, form a warband which doesn't consist of witch elves with 0-5-1 grps and so on and use discord, even in the middle of the day, you are online, you want to play, you invest your time, so make it efficient.
I remember when I started to play Nyky started warbands "in the middle of the day". (was a russian dude)
Those were pretty successful, the Knight from VII with the name I always write wrong does the same.
coming to the forums and complain about guilds which follow there own purpose aka. it's not there task to carry the realm, it isn't gonna lead anywhere. I can share my personal insight: we will not setup at 15:00h to farm pugs for 40 minutes and provoke a xrealm.

if it's not possible to form a warband because reason XYZ, form a 6 man and farm the outskirts of the zerg, it's fun and good / fast character progress and also provides good / interesting fights and stop bothering with the zone or dying at all.
ofc. we can also make forum threads, call ppl / realm X or Y out for zerging and hope that they change there mind.

as a sidenote: if the enemy realm consists of zerging pugs, beating 120 AAO etc. isn't really a hard task.
it gets somewhat harder / intense if premades / guilds hide in there, but you can always fall back to keep and make it bloody.
being the underdog is usually rewarding if you manage to get the frags.
if you have 400 AAO, and I usually experience that only in the offzones, ofc you don't have the mass to stop anything or contest a keep / groundfloor / roof.