AAO chasing guilds? where?

[Onemantankwall]

Well that's a fair statement and one I agree with

Well considering there is no other NA "organized guild" 6mans im not sure what ur expecting, drow/lords dont even have a full wb to run both are mostly 6mans u got lutz to pug lead and thats about it. NA destro has no want to organize theirselves just as order has no want to xrealm to balance things out, you get what ya put in ya know

Please tell me a NA guild that fields a WB? with no pugs all in coms? never seen one come close only one was Savvy way back when. And if you dont know who the Savvy guilds are then you haven't been around as long as you think.

Isnt that what i just said? Its not for lack of trying... Just with such a low pop finding 23 to commit is meh

[dansari]

Well considering there is no other NA "organized guild" 6mans im not sure what ur expecting, drow/lords dont even have a full wb to run both are mostly 6mans u got lutz to pug lead and thats about it. NA destro has no want to organize theirselves just as order has no want to xrealm to balance things out, you get what ya put in ya know

Please tell me a NA guild that fields a WB? with no pugs all in coms? never seen one come close only one was Savvy way back when. And if you dont know who the Savvy guilds are then you haven't been around as long as you think.

Within this year we have gotten close with about 18 guildies in comms, and 6 from alliance, who were also in comms. Last year (I think it was last year..) we could get 24 from alliance all in comms easily.

[Onemantankwall]

Well considering there is no other NA "organized guild" 6mans im not sure what ur expecting, drow/lords dont even have a full wb to run both are mostly 6mans u got lutz to pug lead and thats about it. NA destro has no want to organize theirselves just as order has no want to xrealm to balance things out, you get what ya put in ya know

Please tell me a NA guild that fields a WB? with no pugs all in coms? never seen one come close only one was Savvy way back when. And if you dont know who the Savvy guilds are then you haven't been around as long as you think.

Within this year we have gotten close with about 18 guildies in comms, and 6 from alliance, who were also in comms. Last year (I think it was last year..) we could get 24 from alliance all in comms easily.

youve also recieved the return of apoc players this year to pick up. Idk why but alot came back after the wl live revert and all at the same time. It use to be ur pug vs mine then all of a sudden u were fieldibg 2-3 wbs nightly i remember the first night everyone came back from apoc.. Was the usual wb vs wb after about a hour of fighting 2 more showed up like roaches outta woodwork to pancake my fellas haha. T4 pop jumped up from 50 a night to about 200 a night now Been dealing with the order blob ever since, tho hit 80 and retired off the aao tho so no complaints

[DanielWinner]

I strongly recommend you to avoid name shaming of any guilds and any call outs or personal warnings will be given.

Thank you.

[Onemantankwall]

I strongly recommend you to avoid name shaming of any guilds and any call outs or personal warnings will be given.

Thank you.

Thats why we need a specific **** talking thread just for that since xrealm chat gone taking alook at the forums we look boring af to outsiders

[dansari]

youve also recieved the return of apoc players this year to pick up. Idk why but alot came back after the wl live revert and all at the same time. It use to be ur pug vs mine then all of a sudden u were fieldibg 2-3 wbs nightly i remember the first night everyone came back from apoc.. Was the usual wb vs wb after about a hour of fighting 2 more showed up like roaches outta woodwork to pancake my fellas haha. T4 pop jumped up from 50 a night to about 200 a night now Been dealing with the order blob ever since, tho hit 80 and retired off the aao tho so no complaints

I don't think any NA order pugs were on APOC; I also don't lead pugs, but if you're referring to regular pug players, I think the majority just go wherever they can be led, and order has a few decent leaders who are willing to work with players not in comms.

[Seams]

NO solution in sight, No guilds are required to do anything other than have fun. Destro gets curbed stomped recently they feel picked on. Order doesnt give 2 craps cause they are winning. It flips over and over. They create a player screen (log in) tells new players that order is in need of troops, false information cause it doesnt track anything useful just a note that is changed by whoever who has forgot to make a change to it recently.

The problem is further compacted that AAO does little to nothing to the zerging side a problem for another day. We then compound this with a disparity in classes changes affecting just one side(skewed point of view based on going through patch notes comparing amount/tone up and down of classes), WL had tactic bug that wasn't hot-fixed for over a week they abused the **** outta of, SW is compared to SH yet changes are oneside on that class, BW morale 2 compared to mara lets look at all the 80+ mara's playing, O yea is none who play consistently etc who cares right salty tears.

PUG leaders show up every where the problem is that destro does not have Guild wb's as they use to so after so many losses in open field to order premade wbs and now even 6 mans taking 12 ppl to kill they kinda do PVE or altogether play something else. And yes it is a matter of git gud and play better, with get organized and all the other poop required. Just shoot this thread take it out back and bury it. Players are not blind they can clearly see the difference in sides, form gameplay, to premades, down to guilds. FFS ppl cant even get a chp 22 wb up during any prime time in destro.

[Sulorie]

Was the brand-new "xrealm protection" silently removed?

[Wam]

NO solution in sight, No guilds are required to do anything other than have fun. Destro gets curbed stomped recently they feel picked on. Order doesnt give 2 craps cause they are winning. It flips over and over. They create a player screen (log in) tells new players that order is in need of troops, false information cause it doesnt track anything useful just a note that is changed by whoever who has forgot to make a change to it recently.

The problem is further compacted that AAO does little to nothing to the zerging side a problem for another day. We then compound this with a disparity in classes changes affecting just one side(skewed point of view based on going through patch notes comparing amount/tone up and down of classes), WL had tactic bug that wasn't hot-fixed for over a week they abused the **** outta of, SW is compared to SH yet changes are oneside on that class, BW morale 2 compared to mara lets look at all the 80+ mara's playing, O yea is none who play consistently etc who cares right salty tears.

PUG leaders show up every where the problem is that destro does not have Guild wb's as they use to so after so many losses in open field to order premade wbs and now even 6 mans taking 12 ppl to kill they kinda do PVE or altogether play something else. And yes it is a matter of git gud and play better, with get organized and all the other poop required. Just shoot this thread take it out back and bury it. Players are not blind they can clearly see the difference in sides, form gameplay, to premades, down to guilds. FFS ppl cant even get a chp 22 wb up during any prime time in destro.

you worry too much... I worry lack of order when we are back and other guilds are back to full strength also

is coming "2 weeks" inc

Worship and pray to Khorne... balance will be restored during primetime mark my words... order will need to take things up a few levels before destro need to be worried but i look forward to the challenge if they do

many people's are on winter break TUP on break, pnp slight break? NRM less numbers... without these guilds to punish zergers their numbers increase and puggies cry doom and gloom because can't handle and do own thing and don't follow their respective leader as closely as they should.

Order get farmed for like a year and don't panic so much, they get a little momentum mostly due to coverage... we go order a few times and killed destro and destro don't handle being on losing side too well. Its war its eternal, it ebs and flows both ways.

Spreading negativity and pessimism is counter productive to what you want to achieve btw.

[Nidwin]

@Wam

EU primetime isn't the issue, never was actually. It's those 20 other hours a day that has become problematic on destruction side.

We have reached the point that the main concern for destro players when a zone opens is to reach our keep in time for "defense". And by defense I mean try to get some kills before being roflstomped by order once the inner door is down.