Three forts in roughly an hour.

[Tyrex2017]

3 forts in 1 hour is what you get when all organized warbands decide to play in the same realm for to farm pugs.

The sequence of events as seen by a WB pug leader on DESTRO
1. Orda started blobbing by stacking 3 warbands at Statue BO in CW.
2. Destro had 3 pug warbands. Just PUGS WB. WB lead communicated and wiped the Orda on Statue » PUGS POWA.
4. After that, Orda were camped by 3 WB pugs from Destro. No AAO, same number on both sides.
5. Suddenly, we see on the Order side: LNM, Thundercat, and one other semi-org Orda + the 3 WB pugs that were already on the field.
6. AAO shifted to Destro, 200+ Orda - 100+ Destro.
5. Game over.

Respect to Bene, the only WB organized on the destruction side tonight.
This mentality of wanting to stack WB organizations in the same realm is killing this game.

[Tyrex2017]

Im not leaving.. just disappointed that the first balance needs to be population.

Complaining here won't really do much, but sharing good ideas can be the first step towards new things getting added someday.

Rubius, my suggestion:
- Add a reward system for loyalty to the same realm.

[Cokhollywood]

I don't know if you've ever played any other MMOs but the faction balance in this game is pretty insane. Near 50 / 50 at all times, most RvR #'s are balanced, the most imbalanced I've seen is ~170 vs. 130, which is still close to 50 / 50.

I'm sorry but this is just a complaint for the sake of complaining. I'm sorry you had a run of bad luck one day and lost 3 forts in a row, but the faction balance in this game is better than most MMOs I've ever seen, and impressive considering it's so important to the game's functioning.

Go hit a pillow and march on my man.

[Martok]

You were blobbing for five hours with nothing to fight and no sieges.

The question is, is this the version of the game we all really want? Because currently it is the one we have.

[Bankei]

Destro won't siege because many Order guilds will hide numbers and mess with the game mechanics, so sieging often times creates a mass-login event where all of a sudden, numbers completely flip.

Outside of Merci or Gigi leading, Order can't really hang with Destro in open fights because of the dichotomy that I just mentioned. Many people play both sides (nothing wrong with that) so everyone's experience depends on if xrealmers want an even fight or prefer to blob and roll (it's always the latter)

I don't think this is something the game can solve for so I've grown to accept it and just log on and try to enjoy whatever content is available at the time.

[Amakusa]

You cant fix players it is what it is...

[Bankei]

Rubius, my suggestion:
- Add a reward system for loyalty to the same realm.

Low key amazing idea right there

[Vylokada]

So much bs in this thread just wanted to say it, both sides blob, both sides do shty things that ruin the game, but to sit and blame one side is crazy and there was not even numbers at all, we was stuck in cale and CW for 2 hours and destro didn't event attempt a siege, we had 2 warbands vs 5, the numbers wasn't even close to even until merci and lnm logged on, which resulted in destro just giving up and bailing, going to CW only for order to move from cale after locking and retaking CW keep. 3 destro wb my arse. I mean we saw 2 WB running up ramp towards order WC and 2 WB coming across bridge from shrine, how is that 3?

[Bankei]

I don't know if you've ever played any other MMOs but the faction balance in this game is pretty insane. Near 50 / 50 at all times, most RvR #'s are balanced, the most imbalanced I've seen is ~170 vs. 130, which is still close to 50 / 50.

Out of curiosity, what other MMOs have you played where open world RvR is the main focus?

https://maartenson.net/ror_graph.html - look at population T2+ difference then overlay that with T2+ Kills Difference. The literal ebb and flow of the server is based on population imbalances. This is fine, we're playing a game that "died" in 2013, you can't make it perfect. The only true balance would be to release a 3rd faction so that crossrealming wouldn't have such a profound effect on population numbers.

There are also massive issues with some WBLs focusing on denial of play rather than participating. With the recent changes to BOs, it promotes more open WB vs WB fights but some folks will continue to deny fighting. Last night's strategy was to wait out the Destro blob, log in and PvDoor, this is extremely common.

[Bankei]

So much bs in this thread just wanted to say it, both sides blob, both sides do shty things that ruin the game, but to sit and blame one side is crazy and there was not even numbers at all, we was stuck in cale and CW for 2 hours and destro didn't event attempt a siege, we had 2 warbands vs 5, the numbers wasn't even close to even until merci and lnm logged on, which resulted in destro just giving up and bailing, going to CW only for order to move from cale after locking and retaking CW keep. 3 destro wb my arse. I mean we saw 2 WB running up ramp towards order WC and 2 WB coming across bridge from shrine, how is that 3?

I wasn't on last night so I'm not trying to contradict your experience. During NA evening times, Destro hesitate to siege Order as it tends to trigger a sudden and massive logon event.

I play Destro only and I feel like last week was a solid week, both Friday and Saturday, Order engaged us in the open field, great fights and good strategy on both sides.

At the same time, it's perfectly normal for someone to post here after they had a tough experience one night, it doesn't mean that you have to try and invalidate their experience.