How to get ROR population up.

[Darks63]

The whole talk about NB automating gameplay sounds pretty much like some "what is an assault rifle?"-discussion.

At best it automates your rotation and even then it still requires a button press at every ability. You still need to move your toon, select your targets, and position yourself.

[skylinx]

"NB made people more competitive"

You mean. NB made it EASIER to be more competitive

I think of NB in Street fighter context. You have one player who pushes LEFT+RIGHT+DOWN+X+Y+Z to complete a move. Whilst player 2, Mr NB, presses X for the same result. Does that make player 2 more competitive??

WaR was a game without NB, So be it in RoR too. How much fun would Street fighter be if you pressed 1 button?

[mynban]

"NB made people more competitive"

You mean. NB made it EASIER to be more competitive

I think of NB in Street fighter context. You have one player who pushes LEFT+RIGHT+DOWN+X+Y+Z to complete a move. Whilst player 2, Mr NB, presses X for the same result. Does that make player 2 more competitive??

WaR was a game without NB, So be it in RoR too. How much fun would Street fighter be if you pressed 1 button?

I am pretty certain WaR had NB as far as I can remember. Also you SF comparison is miles away from what playing with NB is in reality.

[Sulorie]

WaR was a game without NB, So be it in RoR too.

You want to contribute to this so-called discussion with lies or at least misinformed statements?

[skylinx]

NB was banned in WaR as far as i can remember

[Sulorie]

NB was banned in WaR as far as i can remember

You remember wrong.

[emiliorv]

How TF is a UNFAIR advantage if the addon was accesible to EVERYONE??

What if the skilled players that know their rotation and can make fast decisions in-battle and do great simply don't WANT to be forced to use a cheap automating addon that plays for them? Just "because it's available for everyone to cheese" doesn't make it better.

People would rather, you know, actually play the game and not be forced to use NB (have a more colourful and clever name for it) just to keep up to the speed of an automated system.

You're saying you should have a right to play how you want by using NB? Goes the other way, too. We want the right to not HAVE to use it. It just so happens that your want is against the games TOS and fundamentally broke combat by making it automated and boring, and our want isn't deemed such.

Once more, if people blame the population drop because of NB being banned, you can say the same for Destruction Nerfs too...the timing there can be just as valid. Just making an example.

If you feel better ("more skilled") not using it...just go ahead and dont use it...But you want to remove the option to others to use it..

NB made the game easier to play, easier to swap between alts and made "playable" some hardcore classes (hello IB+BG)...

I never use NB myself (didnt felt the need to use it) but im OK to any tools to make game easier to play....a lot ppl left the game because felt pissed by this change, not because they cant play without NB....

Devs pushed this change knowing this gonna happen...so, no regrets (i assume)...

When the "proyect objectives" begin to drive away a high % of playerbase is a dangerous road to follow (i saw it some years ago in Uthgard 2...)

[abezverkhiy]

How TF is a UNFAIR advantage if the addon was accesible to EVERYONE??

What if the skilled players that know their rotation and can make fast decisions in-battle and do great simply don't WANT to be forced to use a cheap automating addon that plays for them? Just "because it's available for everyone to cheese" doesn't make it better.

People would rather, you know, actually play the game and not be forced to use NB (have a more colourful and clever name for it) just to keep up to the speed of an automated system.

You're saying you should have a right to play how you want by using NB? Goes the other way, too. We want the right to not HAVE to use it. It just so happens that your want is against the games TOS and fundamentally broke combat by making it automated and boring, and our want isn't deemed such.

Once more, if people blame the population drop because of NB being banned, you can say the same for Destruction Nerfs too...the timing there can be just as valid. Just making an example.

If you feel better ("more skilled") not using it...just go ahead and dont use it...But you want to remove the option to others to use it..

NB made the game easier to play, easier to swap between alts and made "playable" some hardcore classes (hello IB+BG)...

I never use NB myself (didnt felt the need to use it) but im OK to any tools to make game easier to play....a lot ppl left the game because felt pissed by this change, not because they cant play without NB....

Devs pushed this change knowing this gonna happen...so, no regrets (i assume)...

When the "proyect objectives" begin to drive away a high % of playerbase is a dangerous road to follow (i saw it some years ago in Uthgard 2...)

Exactly. This is not China to tell us what to do.

I discovered NB in March only so I did not get addicted to it much but the manner how ban was implemented is pretty discouraging.

[mogt]

many players forget so many things, NB check the conditions. as example, healdebuff.

if you target an enemy he get a healduff from another player, they you press the button from NB and in you rotation is a healdebuff skill.then NB check, the enemy had a healdebuff and then NB skip automaticly the healdebuff skill. and if the addon decide this for you as player, then is is a cheat. and devs here said it from beginning. if it is possible then the block NB and at the beginning it was not possible and now it is possible, instead cry about NB that is the reason why the popukation is low, please learn to play your chars. all chars are simple to play, the key word is, learn curve. you as player grow with the chars if you play themselve. you as players decide which skill in which situation. and you als human can be press a false button in a situation, that is normal and if you do this you be lose, if the addon decide this ever the right button then you ever win and that is cheatin or botting

[emiliorv]

many players forget so many things, NB check the conditions. as example, healdebuff.

if you target an enemy he get a healduff from another player, they you press the button from NB and in you rotation is a healdebuff skill.then NB check, the enemy had a healdebuff and then NB skip automaticly the healdebuff skill. and if the addon decide this for you as player, then is is a cheat. and devs here said it from beginning. if it is possible then the block NB and at the beginning it was not possible and now it is possible, instead cry about NB that is the reason why the popukation is low, please learn to play your chars. all chars are simple to play, the key word is, learn curve. you as player grow with the chars if you play themselve. you as players decide which skill in which situation. and you als human can be press a false button in a situation, that is normal and if you do this you be lose, if the addon decide this ever the right button then you ever win and that is cheatin or botting

We all know what NB can do....(that in resume is make the game easier to play)...what some ppl (like you) is having a hard time to understand is that mostly ppl dont give a s*iht about that learn curve...ppl wnat to have fun playing a 13 years old video game....

Lot ppl said that they will quit if NB was removed....now enjoy your half population server...lets see hows going in a few months