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Drendon
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#11 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:47 am

Hmm this is wierd, something just not right here, i tought i was einstein while eating my fruitsallat and coming up with brilliant math.. now in just sad and confused :( something they might nees to look into :).

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Tesq
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#12 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:10 pm

wep skill increase/decrease could be hard to spot cos

if you ingore a 20% armor from wep skill and opponen'ts have 20% armor this do not make = 0% armor
it's the 20% of that 20% so:

it's 20 : 100 x 20= 4% ---> 20% -4% = 16% damage reduction from armor.

I can offer my tank to test if you want i have 67-69% damage reduction from armor, with great number the % reduction should be easier to spot if it work.
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#13 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:31 pm

Tesq wrote:wep skill increase/decrease could be hard to spot cos

if you ingore a 20% armor from wep skill and opponen'ts have 20% armor this do not make = 0% armor
it's the 20% of that 20% so:

it's 20 : 100 x 20= 4% ---> 20% -4% = 16% damage reduction from armor.

I can offer my tank to test if you want i have 67-69% damage reduction from armor, with great number the % reduction should be easier to spot if it work.
The 3592 from my test comes from hitting a black orc.
I'm not expecting crazy numbers but my damage stays at exactly the same whether I have 10 WS on, or 60 WS on. Literally, the same. Does not change by 1.
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#14 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:42 pm

this is clear so combat formula need to be check
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#15 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:03 pm

Good to know and thanks for the tests, Xyeppp. If WS is indeed not working, then that's a contributing factor to what some are seeing in scenarios: fewer deaths, lower number of kills - in part because armor is not being penetrated. Gives magic damage an edge...

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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#16 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:54 pm

mvazquez99 wrote:Good to know and thanks for the tests, Xyeppp. If WS is indeed not working, then that's a contributing factor to what some are seeing in scenarios: fewer deaths, lower number of kills - in part because armor is not being penetrated. Gives magic damage an edge...
Also dps with armor bypass have a big advantage and classes with higher armor only need to think about magic.
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#17 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:44 pm

Lets be honest though currently much of the balance is absolutely nothing like on live. WS is the least of it.
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#18 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:55 pm

Telen wrote:Lets be honest though currently much of the balance is absolutely nothing like on live. WS is the least of it.
What does this thread have to do with balance? I don't know where did you guys pin this all on here, but all I'm reporting is a stat that seems to not be calculated well - it looks a little broken and affects both sides.

This has nothing to do with balance, or people getting less kills, or tanks worrying about magic only.
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#19 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:57 pm

Wrong value used in function for dealing ability damage.

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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?

Post#20 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:06 pm

Azarael wrote:Wrong value used in function for dealing ability damage.
Awesome.
Thanks for looking into it man, even while on your break.
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