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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#21 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:13 pm

Telen wrote:If you have been keeping up with 40k recently there was absolute fury recently when a female game blogger pointed out there wasnt many women represented. The neckbeards went absolutely nuts about it. Some of the furious youtube videos are funny to troll.
I suggested they retcon the emperor to be female to attract more female players. Not enough popcorn.
but, but plastic sisters of battle !!! The got in line!!!
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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#22 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:57 pm

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Thing is that was never entirely true. Females are well represented in all the various Elf/Eldar ranges, mordheim had sisters of sigmar and Necromunda had Escher.
You have the Adepta Sorroritas in 40k and p
women are well represented in the fiction (including divrse sexuality, check out the Commissar Caine novels).

Women in 40k and warhammer fantady tend to be strong characters equal to their male countetparts.

It is worth noting though, that the context of female representation has significantly changed over time. Contemporary representation of women in GW fiction pretty much follows the gentrified liberal zeitgeist, with women being heroic, serious and complex characters. But before that, women in Warhammer worlds were pure exploitation, made for honest, hard working, but a bit kinky nerds.


Warhammer 40k was pure BDSM. John Blanche, GW's former art director and illustrator, used to freelance for goth, fetishist, biker magazines, and it damn well shows. Latex, high heels and chains everywhere and on everything with a vagyna. You had:

BDSM goth chick aka Dark Eldar Wyches
BDSM punk chicks aka Escher
BDSM nuns aka Sisters of Battle (my tabletop army :mrgreen: )
BDSM Amazons aka Sisters of Silence
Old School BDSM aka Callidus Assassins
Hard Core BDSM aka Sisters Repentia
Demon BDSM aka Daemonettes

And it **** rocked tbh. Every model felt like a cover from the Heavy Metal magazine.



Sadly, Warhammer kinda lost it's spunk over the years, with this heavy shift to more serious writing, and more levelheaded characters. It just isn't compatible with the outlandish visuals of the world, which are sadly also being gradually toned down.

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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#23 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:25 pm

verterdegete wrote:
Fallenkezef wrote:
Thing is that was never entirely true. Females are well represented in all the various Elf/Eldar ranges, mordheim had sisters of sigmar and Necromunda had Escher.
You have the Adepta Sorroritas in 40k and p
women are well represented in the fiction (including divrse sexuality, check out the Commissar Caine novels).

Women in 40k and warhammer fantady tend to be strong characters equal to their male countetparts.

It is worth noting though, that the context of female representation has significantly changed over time. Contemporary representation of women in GW fiction pretty much follows the gentrified liberal zeitgeist, with women being heroic, serious and complex characters. But before that, women in Warhammer worlds were pure exploitation, made for honest, hard working, but a bit kinky nerds.


Warhammer 40k was pure BDSM. John Blanche, GW's former art director and illustrator, used to freelance for goth, fetishist, biker magazines, and it damn well shows. Latex, high heels and chains everywhere and on everything with a vagyna. You had:

BDSM goth chick aka Dark Eldar Wyches
BDSM punk chicks aka Escher
BDSM nuns aka Sisters of Battle (my tabletop army :mrgreen: )
BDSM Amazons aka Sisters of Silence
Old School BDSM aka Callidus Assassins
Hard Core BDSM aka Sisters Repentia
Demon BDSM aka Daemonettes

And it **** rocked tbh. Every model felt like a cover from the Heavy Metal magazine.



Sadly, Warhammer kinda lost it's spunk over the years, with this heavy shift to more serious writing, and more levelheaded characters. It just isn't compatible with the outlandish visuals of the world, which are sadly also being gradually toned down.
I disagree with most of what you said.

Except the stuff about John Blanch that guy sticks chains and stilettos on everything.
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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#24 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:48 pm

Some of the earliest novels were Genevieve Dieudonne novels by Kim Newman under alias Jack Yeovil, which were about strong liberal independent woman who dont need no man ;)

Warhammers aesthetic did change for the worse around 7th/8th edition IMO but not because of absence of le scantily clad women. Just got more generic fantasy and "Warcraftish" ironically.
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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#25 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:38 pm

Really hoping wfrp 4th edition is good btw.
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Post#26 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:43 am


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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#27 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:06 am

Toldavf wrote:
Telen wrote:If you have been keeping up with 40k recently there was absolute fury recently when a female game blogger pointed out there wasnt many women represented. The neckbeards went absolutely nuts about it. Some of the furious youtube videos are funny to troll.
I suggested they retcon the emperor to be female to attract more female players. Not enough popcorn.
Well i haven't but that sounds hilarious XD.

Also as you probably know 40k has always had good female representation the guard, sisters, eldar/dark eldar, Inquisitors, sisters of silence, Culexus assassins to name but a few.
there is a Youtuber called Arch Warhammer who has been yelling about feminists in WH40k in his vids lately some of it is funny.
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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#28 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:02 am

As Chaos & Norsca tribes are little bit viking/tribal idea. So the basic system of men only go to war and women are left to raise children & do the stuff when men are raiding / attacking some other place for the gods.
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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#29 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:11 pm

Why exactly is the concept that 50% of the Human race can be strong, equal and worthy of leadership roles considered luberal anyway?

Isn't it common sense?
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Re: After playing Total War, Something I think is cool about this game...

Post#30 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:18 pm

Fallenkezef wrote:Why exactly is the concept that 50% of the Human race can be strong, equal and worthy of leadership roles considered luberal anyway?

Isn't it common sense?
Lets not discuss our actual world and keep it fantasy XD.
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