Changelog 08/11/16

[dadlyj]

Hang in there.
this server is grave of shadow warrier.
USA live server is dislike to sw
all say need burf sw
but here is nerfd sw
Maneuver Warfare combat capability making balance
when push comes to shove
summen squig type use ability confinement patch
sw is already swiching stance tyep use ability
and therefore disadvantageous

[Arena]

Thank you for your work.
Please be carefull with dok/wp mechanics, this little change is pushing them a little bit away from group style of playing.
Half-heal and half-dps now gonna have less heal and more dps, which means they became less valueable for group. Doks will save they're group playing style by prefering Pillage Essence, but it gonna make them weaker in compare with WPs. And i mentioned about they're ballance here:viewtopic.php?f=15&t=17726
Thank you for the patch once again. Please be carefull.

[warislove]

@Penril

isnt it a bit petty to just dismiss ppl that are oppose to some changes and outright calling them whiners?

[Penril]

@Penril

isnt it a bit petty to just dismiss ppl that are oppose to some changes and outright calling them whiners?

Don't even try to imply I do that; any post I edit I do because it was breaking one of the forum rules, and the CM (Natherul) and head GM (Wargrimnir) are aware of pretty much 99% of whatever I do there.

As for whining: If someone is opposed to a change, but gives ZERO arguments, then YES: I call that whining.

[sanii]

Tactics are, per Annaise, balanced around +10% DPS or +10% defense to a single unit. DT is worth 5% effectiveness to each group member (25% in total) plus the extremely valuable increase in triggering of critical effects, and is vastly imbalanced for a passive skill. Even pre-change Encouraged Aim is a less effective tactic (requires PTA!, requires 30ft near enemy, increases only critical hit rate against those enemies but works for attackers out of group on those enemies) and DT's effect on a single Archmage or Shaman, for example, is worth two of their tactics.

I don't mind the nerf to DT that much as its long overdue , but if you are going to make further adjustments based on that rule ,similar to cimba, i would like a source for this , considering the vast majority of tactics do not follow that rule at this point and i don't remember a time where they actually did.

Now while i still think knights will continue being an integral part in warbands ,even with the DT changes , the change to Leading Shots might make it even harder for SWs to find a spot ,as apart from that they do not have other redeeming qualities. That said if leading shots was limiting design space for other improvements it is a welcome change for the future.

Apart from that solid changes as usual for rvr , gotta try out the the dmg boost on Wracking Agony (i don't think it was that necessary, considering dps dok output is already sufficient but i won't wail over any positive changes to dps dok's)

As usual, thanks for the effort.

[PartizanRUS]

Spoiler:

WL nerfed again, kicks in the balls to some other order toons (besides WP), relevant buff to the already OP melee doks enabling an ok torture spec.... what can i say? GOOD JOB.

I see nerfing order is a new trend.

Shitposting in a patchnotes thread and quoting a spoilered post - Azarael

[PartizanRUS]

I repeat again. Those nerfs are bullshit. Deal with it.

User was banned for this post - Azarael

[warislove]

@Penril

point was that if you give an argument to a change it doesnt matter bcs there are 5 ppl with their shiny wall of text arguing their side of the story and they get their way more often than not...

example: 10 ppl that cant understand how to fight against guard/super punt will qq how its unfair to have those abilities in the way that they are and will cry for their change (and in this case they are not considered whiners?) if they are vocal enough the changes that they want will be implemented...without them maybe try to understand the system and work around guard/punt...(or insert random ability that average player cba to understand)

maybe im wrong about this but when i played on live and got destroyed by someone my plan was to get better and to not cry how someone is OP

[dur3al]

All Morale-Affecting Skills

- The amount of morale regenerated by any morale pump or removed by any morale drain is now linked to the morale scaler. A pump or drain will use its tooltip value only when the morale gain rate is 3.6x.

I also don't understand how moral pumps are all "changed" to work based on the new scaling system when AM moral pump takes a gcd for example, as in the chosen's one doesn't.

You're asking back-liners to be at the front line (have enemies around within 54 feet of an AM?) for the moral pump to work? I'm pretty sure you've just killed any viability in doing it so since putting a cloth healer within 54 feet or enemies is basically asking to be killed.

Why wasn't this discussed also in the balance forums?
You can't just put every moral gain/drain within the same scaling rules since the classes play differently, position themselves differently & just work differently overall.

[Azarael]

Why do you think the morale gain topic is still open? So you can post exactly that in the correct thread. It's not for me to address individual values for morale drains and pumps, and that's why the SM drain is now completely gimped as well. My brief was to deal with the meta morale pumps, those which were causing active imbalances for current rates. Go to the topic and discuss it, and we'll look at individual pumps and drains.

point was that if you give an argument to a change it doesnt matter bcs there are 5 ppl with their shiny wall of text arguing their side of the story and they get their way more often than not...

example: 10 ppl that cant understand how to fight against guard/super punt will qq how its unfair to have those abilities in the way that they are and will cry for their change (and in this case they are not considered whiners?) if they are vocal enough the changes that they want will be implemented...without them maybe try to understand the system and work around guard/punt...(or insert random ability that average player cba to understand)

maybe im wrong about this but when i played on live and got destroyed by someone my plan was to get better and to not cry how someone is OP

It is a common tactic for those who are not successful within a process to try to denigrate the process. If you weren't listened to, it means your arguments were not persuasive enough. As I've made very clear - this server does not work by voting or by lobbying or by pressure tactics.