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Helera
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31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#1 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:29 pm

Ok can someone tell use the career builder to link me a heal and dps renown and talent build? And tell me what talismans to use in slots for each.

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Helera
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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#2 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:49 pm

Can someone plz give me a little guidance here.

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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#3 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:59 pm

Asking for help doesnt work, what you gotta do is post a random wrong one so people foam out of their mouths and rush to correct you.

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Novgoroth
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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#4 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:00 pm

This is the build i use:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 8:;0:0:0:0:
very healing oriented, full wp gemmed because few heal crits (i know some people scream about that, but i don't care what others think). You can gemm in full armor, but it won't help you against the amount of BW on the order side.
For renown, i use this:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;040 ... 4000000000
Once again, willpower, but you can trade with toughtness (i probably will do that too)

This is a defensive build (still heal)
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 9:;0:0:0:0:

I didn't watch about dps since a while, so i'll check later
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Penril
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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#5 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:09 pm

This is what i would use.

Healing:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 8:;0:0:0:0:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;000 ... 4000000000

Not sure what i would do with the other Renown points... maybe Initiative if you feel like you are being crit too much (SMs can place a really nasty Initiative debuff on you).

DPS:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 9:;0:0:0:0:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;400 ... 4000000000

Melee Healing (good for small scale roaming with a friend or 2, useless for large scale):

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 6:;0:0:0:0:

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Novgoroth
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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#6 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:14 pm

Penril wrote:This is what i would use.

Healing:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 8:;0:0:0:0:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;000 ... 4000000000

Not sure what i would do with the other Renown points... maybe Initiative if you feel like you are being crit too much (SMs can place a really nasty Initiative debuff on you).
You can use one more point for career builder (rr40) ;)
I dot not advise you init, the ratio is too low to reduce crit sadly :|
Toughness is probably more interesting
Scaarlett - Disciple of Khaine | Scarlett - Witch Elf | Scarlettonice - Sorceress | Scarlette - Zealot

Scarlettonfire - Bright Wizzard | Scarlettsm - Swordmaster | Scarlettm - Witch Hunter | Navselene - Archmage

Penril
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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#7 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:21 pm

Novgoroth wrote:
Penril wrote:This is what i would use.

Healing:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=dok ... 8:;0:0:0:0:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;000 ... 4000000000

Not sure what i would do with the other Renown points... maybe Initiative if you feel like you are being crit too much (SMs can place a really nasty Initiative debuff on you).
You can use one more point for career builder (rr40) ;)
I dot not advise you init, the ratio is too low to reduce crit sadly :|
Toughness is probably more interesting
You dont spec Initiative to reduce your chance to be crit, you spec it to counter initiative debuffs.

Ran several tests on initiative at level 26 (havent done it yet at 31 though). A SM/BO can debuff your initiative (at 26) up to 81 points. I tested it on a lvl 26 Mara and his initiative was debuffed to around 10, with a chance to be crit of 300%. Not sure how it is at level 31 but i guess the initiative debuff is still fairly powerful. However, as i said, i havent tested the initiative debuff yet at level 31.

If the initiative debuff is still fairly powerful, then you could run with a Zealot buffing your initiative. In this case then i would use those Renown points on something else (maybe toughness as you said). In the end, when playing a healer you need to focus on being tanky and stayinig alive. As a guildie told us the other day, "you can't use your 800+ willpower when you are dead".

I suggest using this calculator to find out how much initiative you actually need (consider a 50-80 debuff to make it safe). I guess a 18-20% chance to be crit is OK.

http://tools.idrinth.de/tank/?dN=0&a0l= ... s=1&d0pm=0

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Kacia
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Re: 31/40 DOK Build Questions

Post#8 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:14 pm

For healing I have pretty much what penril shared but I do restored motivation and efficient patching for my tactics
Kacia DoK rank 26 rr 33
Keahi BW rank 23 rr 20

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