My conceptual idea for build variety.

[saiho]

PSA: These are merely ideas to get the concept out, they are in no way shape or form properly balanced versions of these ideas. They're merely CONCEPTUAL

A talisman idea for potential side-grade in build variety and customization without adding direct power increases in pure stats, what if you could craft powerful talismans that instead of merely granting you stats, they change how certain skills function they are limited to your weapon slots only allowing you to equip 2 of these talismans but they provide ability altering effects. Meaning choice matters, but build variety and customization is present.

The idea is to allow a few Iconic abilities from each classes spec tree (example: Festering Arrow from Scout, Shadowstep from Assault, or Shadow sting from Skirmish) to receive altering effects based on the talisman you wear. Warhammer as we know features little to no build variety, all you really can do is dump everything into one stat or the other. Theres no real choices to what you want to do with your skills or how you wish to build it, the Mastery tree is incredibly bare and minimalistic allowing for nearly no personal choice. And as we've seen in the past, going purely for DIRECT power increases is a scary situation for Warhammer to be in.

A few examples going off of the class I play Shadow Warrior


[Shadowstep]

Talisman of Vanishing Shadowstep
+ Vanishing Shadowstep: The ability Shadowstep now instead teleports you behind your target instantly slowing them by 20% for 3 Seconds while all attacks from behind deal +15% Damage

This would remove the defensive buff granted by shadowstep entirely in exchange for a purely offensive one

Talisman of Protective Shadowtep
+ Protective Shadowstep: The ability Shadowstep now instead allows you to dash to your allies while taking away your ability to dash to enemies, sharing a +X% of your Armor & Defensive stats to your target.

This would enhance shadowsteps defensive capabilities by allowing it to share your stats and allow it to be used on allies in a potential party setting, allowing for the opportunity to build a more defensive focused shadow warrior as Assault Stance doubles your armor as an example.


Talisman of Sprinting Shadowstep
+ Sprinting Shadowstep: The ability Shadowstep now instead grants you a 50% Movement Buff for 5 Seconds with an immunity to movement speed penalties

This would remove the dash portion of shadowstep entirely in favor of a more mobile Shadowstep, in turn removing any defensive buff from the skill to compensate for its now versatile kit



[Eagle Eye]

Talisman of Ricocheting Eagle Eye
+ Ricocheting Eagle Eye: The ability Eagle Eye has its base damage decreased by 20% and cast time increased to 3 Seconds, Instead allowing it to ricochet up to 3 Targets increasing its base damage by 20% for each target hit up to a maximum of 120%

This would allow Scout more access to potentially expand its AoE Capabilities while retaining its sentry-like playstyle and burst damage, aslong as it fills the AOE Criteria.


[Festering Arrow]

Talisman of Obliterating Festering Arrow
+ Obliterating Festering Arrow: The ability Festering Arrow has its base damage reduced by 50%, but instead upon hitting its target it detonates ongoing DoT Effects dealing +X% of their remaining damage instantly

This would allow Scout Shadow Warrior to convert its high damage Festering Arrow nuke into a potential DoT build, speccing into shadow sting, flame arrow and utilizing broadhead arrow to apply DoT effects then consume them for massive damage.




PLEASE REMEMBER THESE ARE MERELY IDEAS FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD TO PROVIDE A PROOF OF CONCEPT, THEY WOULD NOT BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ACTUAL BALANCED ABILITY TALISMANS

[Zxul]

My idea for magus:

Talisman of intrusive tentacles.

Borrowing some of Slaanesh powers, magus temporally turns his target into tentacled beast, which then

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[saiho]

My idea for magus:

Talisman of intrusive tentacles.

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LOL, actually funny

[Therros]

I like it but instead of tali it can be used in Tome tactic slot so after so many years it will not be empty

[saiho]

I like it but instead of tali it can be used in Tome tactic slot so after so many years it will not be empty

I completely forgot the Tome Tactic slot even existed, thats a great Idea. Could increase that slot to 2 and rename it to something else and allow them to change skills