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(SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:53 pm
by saiho
By far the most dogshit useless ability in the entire game, and the fact that it costs Mastery to even unlock is unbelievable.

You slide like a snail towards ur target at negative speed, they can hit YOU before you fully stop your animation because youre so slow. Not to mention people can just walk away from it and youre out of melee range, doesnt even help you stay in melee range. Im baffled as to why this ability hasnt been removed or changed yet as it is far and clearly the worst one in the game, it does the opposite of what it is supposed to do.


Spitballing potential reworks here

Copy WoW Shadowstep, appear behind them. This is the most logical as it makes sure it only truly benefits ASW and doesnt give Ranged SW even more tools.

A very short invisibility with movement speed buff - This one is the most thematically accurate to a shadow hunter in lore but is also the hardest to balance because itll actually buff Skirmish SW potentially, but could be remedied by putting it further up the mastery tree

Or simple yet, apply a short root on the target and increase the animation speed so you appear at them faster. This is the easiest change

It definitely needs some form of change and I hope its on the radar, sorry about the rant but "dashing" to your enemy only to not even reach them is mind boggling to me

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:42 am
by Tetzou
It needs a fix, as you state. Faster animation is a good and simple adjustment, id also recon a 5-8 sec duration slow would be in order, it costs mastery and a major flaw with Asw is it lacks a slow skill. Msh gets it for free.

Both classes needs a snare/root break in melee specc but thats another topic.

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:52 am
by Farrul
Yes the animation is terrible, should have been like a pounce etc.

But to be honest, the entire Assault SW spec is in shambles, it was successively nerfed over the years and then the WS change was the final nail in the coffin.

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:09 am
by Karl
Agree! I’m not using it as a pounce at all but rather to boost my defence in a melee fight.

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:01 am
by saiho
Tetzou wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:42 am It needs a fix, as you state. Faster animation is a good and simple adjustment, id also recon a 5-8 sec duration slow would be in order, it costs mastery and a major flaw with Asw is it lacks a slow skill. Msh gets it for free.

Both classes needs a snare/root break in melee specc but thats another topic.

Agreed, if the animation was faster and applied a mini root ensuring you reach your target followed by a gradual slow after would make the ability a billion timers better to use

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:02 am
by saiho
Karl wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:09 am Agree! I’m not using it as a pounce at all but rather to boost my defence in a melee fight.
Same, Ive died from choppas just slapping me in the face as im slowly sliding towards them whenever Ive tried using it pounce-like

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:19 am
by sven85z
It really suck it should come with a 5 sec slow or something on your target.

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:15 am
by saiho
sven85z wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:19 am It really suck it should come with a 5 sec slow or something on your target.
Yes, but also more drastic changes than that. In its current iteration it basically is self harm, it microstuns YOURSELF, if you try and use it you cant use abilities while youre landing. An enemy can get off 2 GCDs in the time youre recovernig from your shadowstep animation and lockout. It literally just harms u in its current state

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:40 pm
by Adelmar
@Saiho, We had spoken about this a bit in game already, but I find it a much better ability to boost defense in a close up fight since the animation doesn't last nearly as long compared to using it max range, as Karl also attested to here. That being said, I also believe the ability needs a bit of tweaking (the insta port to the enemies flank idea seems good enough for me).

All we can do as SW players is hope that once our turn in the DPS Phase comes, we don't get shafted.

Re: (SW) Shadowstep is the worst skill in the game

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:18 am
by Ashoris
it was faster in the past ..... but got willfully changed into this nonsense ....

You use it as a defense boost. If you want to use it as a gap closer YOU can only doing it by snaring the target beforehand (with your ranged snare in the "wrong stance") .... otherwise you will be forever out of reach ....


soon we will have all aSW's still existing in this Thread :)
Bejkon is missing still !