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Why NB should be banned.

Post#1 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:38 am

NB dynamically moves away from the way the game was designed to be played. i.e.
NB actually use the phrase "the algorithm doing the thinking" this means that conditions are being checked
and met by the ADDON before an ability is released. Pretty sure it should be the PLAYER performing these checks!

Would be happy to put a six pack of your favorite beer on the fact that the EULA says the same thing.
How does that sit with the notion that : you learn your abilities you build a rotation based on trial and error & advice
from others YOU LEARN WHEN AND HOW TO APPLY THEM IN COMBAT you learn the rotation
(i.e. the locations of the abilities on the actionbar preferably without looking)
you learn to vary your rotation dependent on situation and enemy faced.

This takes some time and much practice or you could use NB. NB allows you to set conditional checks PRIOR to entering combat
on your programmed abilities i.e. during your NB setup you have no need to know where your abilities are because,
hey spam one button (the one with the constantly changing icon I believe) The fact that it may take some skill
to set NB up is irrelevant.

What I mean by this is that having the knowledge to set this up does not equate to having the skill in game
to get the same result with out it. In fact i defy anybody that habitually uses this mod to get the same results in an SC say,
without it. NB dumbs down the act of playing whilst simultaneously amping up the effectiveness of the user,
to a point where a player that is not using it, is at a distinct disadvantage.

To suggest that it is available to everyone is not a valid argument. In my opinion your video is the most succinct argument for banning this addon that I have seen. You have clearly demonstrated that NB gives you a tangible edge in combat by using a mod.

Using an addon that does "immunity checks" automatically before executing macrod abilities is gamebreaking.

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vianiznice
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#2 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:43 am

Don't like it, don't use it.
If someone enjoys dumbed down gameplay they should be allowed to, it doesn't give an advantage over any competent player.
Also, "Oh look, this again".

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roadkillrobin
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#3 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:52 am

It also makes the game playeble for those with physical limitations without having to spend 100$ worth of hardware. It's not even that advantageus and macroing comes with as many drawbacks as it comes with benefits. If the game actually would play better with such a addon or complimented hardware I would actually claim that the inherent problem is actually with the skill system not being focused enough.
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#4 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:57 am

There is no such a thing as "you learn how to apply in combat x" these are stuff with high cd or CC, or heal debuff all thing no one will ever put on NB rotation but keep inside other hotbars


From the bw rotatiom for st to the tank binding self buff togheter you bind things which in any rotatiom will always follow one after another in the same way every time.

What nb just does is remove the need to move over the keyboard and remove even flexibility in the rotation at that point. That way with nb you always keep some copy of the skills out of rotation; NB is at max a qol add on
"""'if """use correctly
...

About have dumb check on nb

1-kobs and bg punt done the same in live by themself.....and here aswell if you tab something with immunity they self grey out (and in live first use didn't work and preserve the skill).

2-also how you can put a CC inside a rotation is out of the world for me, use a cc require consideration for the sich at hand not just throw a stamp rotation...otherwise you just give free immunity.

3- how match the cd with the of course random flow of fight every time since these thngs have high cd ...

Just drop it....real cheater are elsewhere and get banned consistently here on ror luckily.
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#5 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:43 am

inb4 NB allows sorcs and BW to oneshot people by bypassing GCD.

zwerrie
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#6 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:54 am

Yup it's becoming pretty lame.. Same with the 'perfect' finishers. (Mara/WL etc.)
There is no even playing field, all vets and so called competive ppl are using it. While all new players have no idea it exist. Ban it for a month and see how 'skilled' all those sorc and other so called players are.. Would you like fries with that salt!?

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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#7 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:05 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:52 am It also makes the game playeble for those with physical limitations without having to spend 100$ worth of hardware.
Strawman much?
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wildwindblows
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#8 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:24 am

NB is necessary if you have lots of skills to use and you dont have any gaming mouse. For example, Im playing Sav/brut mara and im using NB for skill chain. I dont know about the NB too much BUT as I know NB has a lot of functions so I think some people can easly abuse it.

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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#9 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:26 am

Ugle wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:05 am
roadkillrobin wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:52 am It also makes the game playeble for those with physical limitations without having to spend 100$ worth of hardware.
Strawman much?
No, there's been players on this forum expressing exactly these concerns. Players missing fingers, players with arthrithis. My own experience is a friend and former player with rheumatism who left the game due to staffs stance on NB.
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Re: Why NB should be banned.

Post#10 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:27 am

Aceboltz wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:43 am inb4 NB allows sorcs and BW to oneshot people by bypassing GCD.

you can´t! You are 1 of them ... who talk without knowledge about this addon.

So stop talking bullshit.

Next point ... you don´t know much about sorcs and bw´s ... for these classes you dont need NB for 7 hotkeys to burst you down in 1 timestamp.


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