What happened to RvR?

[Tirien27]

Good evening folks, i just came back 2 weeks ago from being away since before the game got shutdown. And it's a blast being back, the feeling of nostalgia is amazing. Too bad i havent seen any old KA guilds or Alliances here, yet anyways.

I played War on and off for a couple of years, even tho the game itself had/has many flaws, the pvp is according to me, the best experience i´ve had in any mmorpg til this very day. Now to the point...

I remember locking bo´s, keep sieges and keep defence, and if you were outnumbered you could take that one bo and lock it for 5 minuts, and those 5 minuts could actually get you to do some harm and even fight back, so destro couldn´t lock a zone. (Never played dest i´m all for ORDER!:P)
And the fun you had when defending a keep, or attacking it, and all that happened inbetween.

Right now i started in t1, the focus on the game at early rvr levels is bo's, but as i leveled up and got to t2 it was the same, if not more focus on BO's before keeps. I really wanted to see or be part of defending or attacking a keep, but that seems impossible right now.

Is this something they had in the game before it got shutdown, or is this something they added in the game when the private server opened? I am really trying to figure out, find a reasoning to why someone would pick BO's as a major part of the game instead of keeps.

Regards /Tirien

[Foomy44]

The devs have been changing the keep fights up a lot the last couple patches and recently the lords have been a LOT harder to kill (pretty much impossible at time) while devs work on tweaking the numbers so not as many good keep fights (thought I do still see people attempt lord plenty, just not a lot of success). Give it some time and things should change up and get more interesting hopefully.

Also devs are making holding BOs important during keep siege for the defender so forces will be more split than previously and in theory keep fights might get smaller than previously for this server.

[Yaliskah]

Hi and welcome on RoR !

Yep we have changed little things on ORvR since month and taken some distance from original design. Be assured our purpose isn't to discard keep taking from RvR.

The rework process has started months ago and isn't finished. The final part is in process these last days and needs some tweaks we can do only if tested in real situation. It takes time and i have good hopes that all will be fine in the next weeks.

I invite you to read this post ( not updated atm ) who explain the global purpose of the new ORvR design. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22943

[Toldavf]

They are looking for a system that, doesn't massively reward zerging and encourages players to get out into the rvr zones.

Not an easy task.

[Aurandilaz]

Karak Azgal was sadly merged into Karak Norn back in Dec 2011, and I think many of former KA guilds kinda merged or morphed into KN guilds, maybe not many guilds that still bear same name as 7-10 years ago, but many former Azgalians still play.

Regarding BOs, I miss old system where they were locked down... allowed ninjas or striketeams to lock down BOs even when facing much larger enemy numbers by playing clever, a smaller force could delay bigger side by doing well timed BO captures. Now the larger side kinda just dominates most BOs and the smaller side has harder time keeping BOs controlled.

[Luicetarro]

Regarding BOs, I miss old system where they were locked down... allowed ninjas or striketeams to lock down BOs even when facing much larger enemy numbers by playing clever, a smaller force could delay bigger side by doing well timed BO captures. Now the larger side kinda just dominates most BOs and the smaller side has harder time keeping BOs controlled.

To be honest, that system was what made me taking an extended break for 1,5 years. It does sound nice in theory, but in reality it didn't work that way.
The zerg just did rid from BO to BO, lock them one after another, head to the keep and stay there. Once a BO was burning, a 6.man headed out and took the BO before the assaulttimer was done.
I've been standing on both sides of that coin, as well as beeing part of the 6-man riding from BO to BO as soon the locktimer did run low. Wiped the assaultteam, locked the BO once more, just to continue roaming to the next one.
Well, in case a BO did lock for the defender, it just forced the attacker to wait a few minutes, while farming near the keep. And it was too easy to just piss off the other faction by sneaking one BO right before the lock. Why prolong somethin that was clearly lost? No one really does enjoy waiting for 15 mins, because someone succeeded in grabbing one BO to lock it right before you won.

I like a dynamic system, where small teams can make a difference again and you're forced to take care of BOs, instead of just afking in the keep till the atk-squad does arrive.

[catholicism198]

Good evening folks, i just came back 2 weeks ago from being away since before the game got shutdown. And it's a blast being back, the feeling of nostalgia is amazing. Too bad i havent seen any old KA guilds or Alliances here, yet anyways.

I played War on and off for a couple of years, even tho the game itself had/has many flaws, the pvp is according to me, the best experience i´ve had in any mmorpg til this very day. Now to the point...

I remember locking bo´s, keep sieges and keep defence, and if you were outnumbered you could take that one bo and lock it for 5 minuts, and those 5 minuts could actually get you to do some harm and even fight back, so destro couldn´t lock a zone. (Never played dest i´m all for ORDER!:P)
And the fun you had when defending a keep, or attacking it, and all that happened inbetween.

Right now i started in t1, the focus on the game at early rvr levels is bo's, but as i leveled up and got to t2 it was the same, if not more focus on BO's before keeps. I really wanted to see or be part of defending or attacking a keep, but that seems impossible right now.

Is this something they had in the game before it got shutdown, or is this something they added in the game when the private server opened? I am really trying to figure out, find a reasoning to why someone would pick BO's as a major part of the game instead of keeps.

Regards /Tirien

The golden days are long gone.
It was like AoR before, but it's something entirely different now.

[Toldavf]

Wait are you the same tiren that used to have an arch mage with the last name bishop?

[Maphyr]

Hmm, yeah. Was wondering the same thing myself, "what the hell happened to RoR?". I've only been back a few days but the RvR feels different. Most people just sit afk at BO's ? Keep lords in T4 are broken ? There's just so much AFKing and sitting around doing nothing but waiting? I hope the admins figure out what they want... because keep siege is one of the main features of this game and yeah.. it's just not really fun sitting at BO's. A year or 2 ago it wasn't like this, I remember seiging keeps a lot, now it's just sitting at BO's, entire WBs, just sitting at BO doing nothing. You people enjoy this? Is this the admin's vision?

[AxelF]

Hmm, yeah. Was wondering the same thing myself, "what the hell happened to RoR?". I've only been back a few days but the RvR feels different. Most people just sit afk at BO's ? Keep lords in T4 are broken ? There's just so much AFKing and sitting around doing nothing but waiting? I hope the admins figure out what they want... because keep siege is one of the main features of this game and yeah.. it's just not really fun sitting at BO's. A year or 2 ago it wasn't like this, I remember seiging keeps a lot, now it's just sitting at BO's, entire WBs, just sitting at BO doing nothing. You people enjoy this? Is this the admin's vision?

I suggest you go and play the game for a while as what you describe certainly isn't something I recognise. If you've only been back a few days you timed it badly unfortunately as there was a bug with keep Lords over the weekend that made them invincible, hence the lack of seiging. Its fixed now though (although there are likely to be further tweaks to Lords) so normal service of fun fights and sieges should resume.