SC with no healer

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Limdul
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SC with no healer

Post#1 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:03 pm

is possibile play sc whit no healer
today i m in sc whit no heal
mourkain temple is sc whit no possible to take orb if you aren t heal sc is lost
a player named Mormonty and another named mic have take a scrennshot at people at wc
they sell go out if you wont play
me and other wait the end after try to take orb but no heal no possibility
more time i fitgh on solo at fort on nordenwatch sc o are only a take flag or orb in other sc but i dont take screenshot o send
just some sc after i play madness sc whit him and i have take orb in solo and i have give a possibility to make 1 emblem at my Group but i have no sell at any why i m in solo to take orb?
message for make report for afk o because people think only to kill enemy and dont play for win sc
people are not afk but only wait after have try to play a sc impossibile to play and win
when you are in sc whit only a item then give point if no have possibility to take it is logical the sc is lost
the people is not afk and dont take message at other play to leave sc and take debuff if you want leave you the sc
i m not english and i speak bad english
tell me i have terrible english is not a solution to win game
i play and don't tell at any to do
don't take screenshot and tell on chat to do report for sc lost
i play and give other people to play when they prefare
thanks all

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peterthepan3
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#2 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:27 pm

I too was in that scenario. Literally nothing could be done, so the easiest thing to do is just let destro have the orb and stay in middle. Mormont's comments were unwarranted, and seemed to ignore the fact we had 0 healers against their 3/4. xD
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Palitelj
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#3 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:36 pm

I would rather wait another 10-15 min then get pop sc without healer, or maybe system should match you with enemy also without healers.

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TrenFreak
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#4 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:39 pm

Tried it several times, being in an sc and having no or only one healer and well thats just the name of the game. People sometimes takes this game all to serious "its just a game"
Telling ppl that they have bad english skills is just pure stupid and have no real merit.

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Aurandilaz
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#5 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:44 pm

if your team lacks heal, it probably means you have extra tanks or dps to compensate, which might result in a superior firepower, that sometimes allows your team to win without heals despite enemy having some.
Though in majority cases, the side with better healing output tends to win, but not always.

As for Mourkain, it can be won without healers, just take the part, keep it until you die, then have a team mate pick it up and so on.

But if you want guaranteed easy wins, play in a 6man scenario premade, victory is guaranteed in vast majority of scenarios. IMO however pugging is more rewarding, as you tend to get random teams and setups, where it's all so chaotic. Easy victories are boring, hard earned ones feel better.

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peterthepan3
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#6 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:45 pm

Aurandilaz wrote:if your team lacks heal, it probably means you have extra tanks or dps to compensate, which might result in a superior firepower, that sometimes allows your team to win without heals despite enemy having some.
Though in majority cases, the side with better healing output tends to win, but not always.

As for Mourkain, it can be won without healers, just take the part, keep it until you die, then have a team mate pick it up and so on.

But if you want guaranteed easy wins, play in a 6man scenario premade, victory is guaranteed in vast majority of scenarios. IMO however pugging is more rewarding, as you tend to get random teams and setups, where it's all so chaotic. Easy victories are boring, hard earned ones feel better.
I'm all for a challenge, but when you're up against a premade with nothing but slayers/lowbie WHs - and no heals - the easiest thing to do is just bide your time. =P
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Aurandilaz
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#7 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:49 pm

Ah, in case of enemy premades, I tend often to simply "chill it out" at the WC.
Either the non-premade team has a chance to fight, but very often there is no hope.
If some boisbands joins scenarios to farm their daily share of pugs for emblem drops, too bad, I often have zero incentives to feed them. :)

If you have a pug team, and enemy has 1 good premade known for their farming ability, or worse, 2 premades; it's not a fight. It's not PvP. It's a farming session.

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daevar
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#8 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:27 pm

There are good premades and there are not so good ones. Often premade against pugs will prevail, but sometimes there's enough good players on the pug side to turn the tide and win. Also, I've encountered a lot of premades so occupied with farming (or trying to farm) other side, that they forget about the scenario goals and keep on camping the WC or thereabouts, moving back when someone figures out how to use cannons. Yesterday on destro side we won a Talabec Dam scenario this way engaging order on the bridge and close to our WC while some decent soul ninja grabbed the bomb and delivered it to the dam (thanks for that, whoever you are!).

That said, without a heal on one side the fate is usually sealed. Not saying I've never been in a scenario when we won in similar situation, only supported by pots, chosen aura and some self heals. There are players who decide to stay in the WC and wait it out, I on the other hand like to give it a go and see what happens. If it really is hopeless, it should at least end soon. Everyone plays the game as they like, so I won't criticise the decision to stay out or leave. We're all here to have some fun. It always seems to go back to this simple advice - if you need a heal or guard, queue with a healer or tank. Or roll a healer or tank. Don't be mad if there's none if you've made a decision to queue with random people. Luckily it doesn't happen that often.
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Elemint
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#9 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:10 pm

The law of SC:

Any thread about winning / losing a sc will devolve into Pemades vs Pugs / pugfarming in less than 10 posts.

The use of PUG annoys me tho, PUG means pick up group, which refers to grouping with people you don't know don't usually group with - if you've found a group from /5, you're still a PUG. What especially triggers me is when people call ungrouped people in the lake pugs, that makes no **** sense

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Aurandilaz
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#10 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:20 pm

Elemint wrote:The law of SC:

Any thread about winning / losing a sc will devolve into Pemades vs Pugs / pugfarming in less than 10 posts.

The use of PUG annoys me tho, PUG means pick up group, which refers to grouping with people you don't know don't usually group with - if you've found a group from /5, you're still a PUG. What especially triggers me is when people call ungrouped people in the lake pugs, that makes no **** sense
would the term "randoms" make better sense for you?
when 6 people who solo queue are allocated into the same scenario party, it becomes a "pick up group"
had the same people formed a party before entering the scenario, it would have been a pre-made party, that is, just a premade.
because we often are lazy using correct terms, either something is a WB, premade, or a PUG.
or its a public WB, which is often just lazily called a pugWB.

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