Stalker Set

[dansari]

Any chance the stalker set can be changed from a hero to a champ, like the T3 epic quests are? Currently there seems to be very little incentive to even bother finding another 3-5 players to take each hero, and changing them to champs would certainly make it easier to find 1-2 other players to complete.

Making them level 30-31 champs to match the epic quests is my proposal.

[Iacobus666]

^ Definitely this! Only realistic way to do it is to ask a r40 friend/guildmate to help out.

[wargrimnir]

Only realistic way to do it is to ask a r40 friend/guildmate to help out.

Tell that to people that played when T3 was end-game. It's possible with other T3 players, and there's no reason a guild member wouldn't be able to help with a 2 minute fight.

[dansari]

Only realistic way to do it is to ask a r40 friend/guildmate to help out.

Tell that to people that played when T3 was end-game. It's possible with other T3 players, and there's no reason a guild member wouldn't be able to help with a 2 minute fight.

It's absolutely possible with other T3 players, I just meant that now that T3 is not end-game, there are vastly less people looking to complete that set. To me it would make sense to bring it in line with the epic quests, and it might further incentivize players to play through T3 rather than level through it.

[NoRKaLKiLLa]

Now that there's a little incentive to fight in t3, I'd love to see some kind of zany, one-off proc added to the sets

[flatfoot1987]

Any chance the stalker set can be changed from a hero to a champ, like the T3 epic quests are? Currently there seems to be very little incentive to even bother finding another 3-5 players to take each hero, and changing them to champs would certainly make it easier to find 1-2 other players to complete.

Making them level 30-31 champs to match the epic quests is my proposal.

This would be great. Getting a group might sound easy but I've seen people looking to do it in lfg channel literally for days and giving up eventually. Making stalker more popular again would add more variety to gear setups for those who decided to play in mid tier and their rr is lagging behind. More people interested in getting it — more action.

Apparently skaven ring quests used to feature heroes back in the day, now there's a champ at the end. So why not? This isn't end game gear by any means. You need a solid group for these heroes. You probably can get ruin easier than this.

Mayhem is an alternative to those with no rr but it's pretty mediocre in a lot of cases and the RNG gold bag part means you can get stuck at 3/5 pieces.

[dansari]

This would be great. Getting a group might sound easy but I've seen people looking to do it in lfg channel literally for days and giving up eventually. Making stalker more popular again would add more variety to gear setups for those who decided to play in mid tier and their rr is lagging behind. More people interested in getting it — more action.

Apparently skaven ring quests used to feature heroes back in the day, now there's a champ at the end. So why not? This isn't end game gear by any means. You need a solid group for these heroes. You probably can get ruin easier than this.

Mayhem is an alternative to those with no rr but it's pretty mediocre in a lot of cases and the RNG gold bag part means you can get stuck at 3/5 pieces.

All of my thoughts exactly. I thought that skaven boss used to be a hero. When I was in there recently I was pleasantly surprised to see it a level 35 champ -- it means I can get two other players (instead of five) to complete it.

To your point, yes, for me I have zero incentive to try to find five players to take all four heroes when ruin is just around the corner and will better prepare me for T4. If I knew I could complete the quests as a duo/trio, I am much more likely to partake in them (and use them to my advantage by staying in T3 longer, where I would be one of the strongest geared players, instead of immediately trying to compete in T4). That's my thinking anyway; I'm glad some other players are in support of this small change.

[Dresden]

PvEr's gonna PvE, if you moved or altered tracker/stalker (and beastlord!) then you'd just be duplicating other stuff already in place.

Consider the big picture first and then it's parts, that's how i learned to more or less shut up and wait.

#FaithAndPatience


p.s. Skaven ring quest? The Grovod Caverns one?

[dansari]

PvEr's gonna PvE, if you moved or altered tracker/stalker (and beastlord!) then you'd just be duplicating other stuff already in place.

What would you be duplicating with the stalker gear being moved to a level 31 champ as opposed to a 25 (I assume the levels are consistent) hero?

p.s. Skaven ring quest? The Grovod Caverns one?

Yes

[Dresden]

PvEr's gonna PvE, if you moved or altered tracker/stalker (and beastlord!) then you'd just be duplicating other stuff already in place.

What would you be duplicating with the stalker gear being moved to a level 31 champ as opposed to a 25 (I assume the levels are consistent) hero?

Point taken but it would still be replacing a hard T3 mob with a relatively easy T4 mob.

Stalker is for PvE hardcore, it satisfied me plenty.

Also it teaches people how to group up for roaming/ganking, lack of desire to make an effort isn't a good reason to nerf it.

It's part of something larger ie tracker = heroes & stalker = heroes & beastlord = heroes and epic T3/T4 is champs ie EASIER.