Solution to mele WP/DoK

[jorgemarco]

1. Prayer of devotion/covenant of vitality - drastically reduced ALL dmg skills of all paths and increased heal of meleheal skills.
2. Prayer of rightteousness/covenant of celerity - increased ALL dmg skills of all paths and drastically decreased heal of ALL skills of all paths.

Anything else is unbalanced. Actually DoK iseven stronger than before. To give an example: mele DoK/WP never should highest dps and highest heal in any situation.DPS class is dps, HEALER class must heal. If u want BOTH, the only balanced thing are balanced numbers.

[adei]

So, gut the class. Nice.

Option 1) Now you are just a healbot spammer with TE, pretty boring and no threat with damage.
Option 2) 40% damage for WP and 25% damage for DoK is more than enough for the damage capability of these classes, the healing whilst running a full dps build is lower anyway especially for direct heals, and your RS/DA and TE/SR will be much less reliable.

[jorgemarco]

Ade i saw you playing ur class, and you know like everyone else mele DoK is op. Im not saying mele WP isnt op. I just want a balanced game and for the moment this is so broken.
Option 1) a healer class is never a threat with dmg. Dok/WP shouldnt be an exception.
Option 2) i dont have any problem buffing dmg to this spec or giving them any new skill/mechanic, but they never should get so high number in heal, even if they are under a pure healer. We havent any other dps class getting that heal numbers, and its logical.

[daniilpb]

I really like new mechanics but should agree that in current situation doks/wps can play both roles at the same time: healers and dps. I think they need a solution which will separate this rolls: you are only healing with low dmg or dealing dmg with low healing.
Maybe if they play as melee healers they have low dmg but when they play dps they still have high heals. Pretty unbalanced if you ask me.
Just imo

[jorgemarco]

Thats the thing. Some mele classes have some skills to heal themselves in punctual moments (slayer, choppa, we f.e.), but they are not healing their entire party constantly and healing huge dmg at the same time.

[TenTonHammer]

you give them low damage their their lifetap heals will be garbage and then they will fail as melee healers

[Daknallbomb]

I dont See a solution that dok and wp have The Option to switch from dps to heal.... Ever class has three trees and Not one class can do both Things effektiv.. Wy dok wp have to? Its not a on wtf post i Just Cant understand it AT The Moment. Mayb some of the devs most like aza can explain IT to me. Cause mostly i understand his Post

[daniilpb]

you give them low damage their their lifetap heals will be garbage and then they will fail as melee healers

What about lower their dmg into ashes but give N00% scale for healing or grant a will power scale somehow?
This is the main problem that they deal too big dmgs. It wasn`t a problem when it was just a dps spec but now things must be changed if we want them as melee healers not a hell-trains with everything

[Azarael]

The answer to this one depends on what the mechanism is. There are two possibilities:

1) mHeal <-> mDPS switching - in which case the problem is that they can switch liberally in combat. Two solutions:

• Switching to or from mDPS prayer blows AP and prevents regeneration for x seconds
• Leaving mDPS prayer invokes massive CD

2) Damage in mHeal mode is too high - in which case there are two possible solutions again:

• No damage debuff on any skills, but Soul Willpower I reduces the damage you deal as it stacks up
• Lower damage in that prayer

[Mystry]

First, the new .ab ex changes are amazingly good and have lead me to actually play my WP again.
Secondly, forcing a class to do nothing but heal or nothing but tank is a douche move, and against the theme of WP. AM/SM do good damage, even when healing, and have the benefit of range. I don't see you complaining about them.
Thirdly, it's MELEE, not mele.