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Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:54 am
by Kattastrof
I have tried google and forum search. Did not find what I was looking for.

Where can I find wich buffs and debuff stacks?
I know armor pots doesnt stack with armor skills and tactics. Is it the same for everything?

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:20 am
by Jaycub
Probably easier if you just tell us what the exact scenario you are looking for an answer to.

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:28 am
by Kattastrof
That is why I asked for directions. :)
So many classes have single stats buffs and debuff.
Whats the point if a bo or a chosen already buffs a stat.
SM have 2? Armor buffs but if they dont stack, why bother
I want to know the rules. Not examples

Thanks anyway

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:58 am
by Jaycub
Buffs/debuffs from abilities, or tactics that specifically modify abilities (When you use X ability you gain Y or Debuff X) do not stack with each other or with pots. Abilities would include anything you have to actively use or apply/turn off on like auras.

Only thing that doesn't follow these rules that I know of is engineer/magus armor buff. Some things like the BO physical damage reduction ability in the middle tree will stack with damage reductions to non specific damage like challenge/bellow. Damage reduction is as far as I know split into outgoing damage reductions like above, and incoming damage reductions like guard, or detaunt (which don't stack), but say guard and challenge will stack.

There are probably a few other stipulations like maybe the shaman toughness debuff tactic?


>Whats the point if a bo or a chosen already buffs a stat.

just delete your blackguard if you have one :^)

>SM armor buffs

pretty much bad, even on live when you had more options for defensive potions.

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:25 pm
by Azarael
[MAX (Ability / Potion) ]
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[MAX (Morale)]
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[SUM (Tactic)]
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[SUM (Career Mechanic, Heaven's Blade, Daemonic Armor, Flak Jacket)]

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:39 pm
by Kattastrof
Thanks alot! Nice to have that info.

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:52 pm
by 7rere7
Armor pot doesn't stack with armor buff abilities even though they are "TANKS"!
Tanks at least should be composited with something like a wound pot !

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:58 pm
by Azarael
No, armor potions should be deleted entirely.

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:18 pm
by Kattastrof
Sounds like a good dream. Would resist pots disappear aswell?
A issue would be balancing dmg vs healers

Re: Stacking buffs

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:30 pm
by peterthepan3
Azarael wrote:No, armor potions should be deleted entirely.
Agreed.