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Kattastrof
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Stacking buffs

Post#1 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:54 am

I have tried google and forum search. Did not find what I was looking for.

Where can I find wich buffs and debuff stacks?
I know armor pots doesnt stack with armor skills and tactics. Is it the same for everything?

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Jaycub
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#2 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:20 am

Probably easier if you just tell us what the exact scenario you are looking for an answer to.
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Kattastrof
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#3 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:28 am

That is why I asked for directions. :)
So many classes have single stats buffs and debuff.
Whats the point if a bo or a chosen already buffs a stat.
SM have 2? Armor buffs but if they dont stack, why bother
I want to know the rules. Not examples

Thanks anyway

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Jaycub
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#4 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:58 am

Buffs/debuffs from abilities, or tactics that specifically modify abilities (When you use X ability you gain Y or Debuff X) do not stack with each other or with pots. Abilities would include anything you have to actively use or apply/turn off on like auras.

Only thing that doesn't follow these rules that I know of is engineer/magus armor buff. Some things like the BO physical damage reduction ability in the middle tree will stack with damage reductions to non specific damage like challenge/bellow. Damage reduction is as far as I know split into outgoing damage reductions like above, and incoming damage reductions like guard, or detaunt (which don't stack), but say guard and challenge will stack.

There are probably a few other stipulations like maybe the shaman toughness debuff tactic?


>Whats the point if a bo or a chosen already buffs a stat.

just delete your blackguard if you have one :^)

>SM armor buffs

pretty much bad, even on live when you had more options for defensive potions.
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Azarael
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#5 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:25 pm

[MAX (Ability / Potion) ]
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[MAX (Morale)]
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[SUM (Tactic)]
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[SUM (Career Mechanic, Heaven's Blade, Daemonic Armor, Flak Jacket)]

Kattastrof
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#6 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:39 pm

Thanks alot! Nice to have that info.

7rere7
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#7 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:52 pm

Armor pot doesn't stack with armor buff abilities even though they are "TANKS"!
Tanks at least should be composited with something like a wound pot !

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Azarael
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#8 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:58 pm

No, armor potions should be deleted entirely.

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Kattastrof
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#9 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:18 pm

Sounds like a good dream. Would resist pots disappear aswell?
A issue would be balancing dmg vs healers

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peterthepan3
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Re: Stacking buffs

Post#10 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:30 pm

Azarael wrote:No, armor potions should be deleted entirely.
Agreed.
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