[Witch Elf] Whichbrew or not brew

[Combi]

Hai,

Had an interesting debate yesterday with my guildies.
I'm using carnage/treachery. Some agreed with my decision some suggested use whichbrew cause it's much better.
This is the build i'm planning to run (missing OYK, not enuff RR).
Tactic: Generally running AP drain kiss, switching it on demand. Open from stealth, PA, HS, AW until dead. Not using up bloodlust cause of tactic giving +15% crit chance. Using elixirs situationally depending on what class I face.

No idea about whichbrew build, but i guess it's something like this.
Now i'm just theorizing cause never used this build, but: open from stealth, HS, BLB, AW, Whichbrew, AW...

Which one do you suggest and why? I'm either ganking in the rvr lakes alone or running scenarios.

[Miszczu5647]

Both links goes to the same build (witchbrew).

I tried both builds. Carnage/suffering is hard hitting but extremely squishy. You can melt BW, Engi, SW. Especially BW if u have disrupt elixir. But... how many lonely BW you meet comparing to WL, WH, KotBS or IB? My experiences are that other melee shredded my WE in this build. But it is nice to see your Pierce Armor crit for 1,2k

Now Witchbrew. Your build is completely different from what I use. I don't use treachery tree but carnage for PA and Swift Blades. And from suffering also elixir. No crit except what I have from gear. Full parry and str from renown. And full mercenary set. For tactics: Brute force, Swift Blade, Sacrifice Rewarded (or For the Hag Queen or Kiss of Doom), Riposte.
Yesterday I meet two SnB KotBS without stealth. One was down and second one killed my when he was 10%HP. This is very tanky WE

[Combi]

Both links goes to the same build (witchbrew).

Links are different so interesting both open whichbrew. They work fine in my browser.

This is very tanky WE

This? Seems interesting. Gonna give it a try once.

[Miszczu5647]

Yes. That's the build. Except with my current rr I don't use armor ignoring elixir and Kiss of Doom (sometimes I switch damaging elixir for tactics but I prefer elixir).
With this build your main targets are melee. Watch for WL - they bunny hoop from you and their pet will deal dmg. Then they back to you pouncing. Ruthless assault helps a lot against this.

[Vdova]

Witchbrew gives you more sustain on longer fights. It completely ignore armor so it cut thru medium/heavy armored targets like thru butter. Handy against tard WPs.
On other hand Oyk+PA spec gives you medium range KD+WS buff. For a WB play or party with inc heal debuff(mara or choppa) I would try OyK for pure dmg.
Strange, but I have found Witchbrew spec more suitable for me even for soloing. http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... :5608:5619:
Sacrifice rewarded tactic is the most underated WE tactic imho. Can save Your ass more than You think For group play with good tank/heal support You dont need that and would rather go for: Brute force, flanking,taste of blood,increased pain.
WE is paper class, but its nice to see idea how to make her more "tanky", but Your dmg and kill potential going down sinificaly.

[Krima]

Yes brew !! Devs balanced the game so enfebling strike does less dmg but It procs WB now!!!
Flanking increases your WB dmg also !!

[Miszczu5647]

For solo play or duo with other dps - WB for the win:)

With my "tanky" WE I have more time for thinking during fight. Dmg is a bit lower (from abilities) but I have more death blows. My dmg come from procs: WB, kiss, riposte, damaging elixir. Vdova - I am sure that you can see what is happening with my target when all this start work on him simultaneously

[Vdova]

For solo play or duo with other dps - WB for the win:)

With my "tanky" WE I have more time for thinking during fight. Dmg is a bit lower (from abilities) but I have more death blows. My dmg come from procs: WB, kiss, riposte, damaging elixir. Vdova - I am sure that you can see what is happening with my target when all this start work on him simultaneously

I would correct this. Riposte + dmg elixir doesnt proc simultaneously. Riposte proc if you parry attack,elixir of blades procs if they strike(hit) You. Its just me,but I couldnt play WE without 50% crit dmg tactic

[Miszczu5647]

You are right. I made a simplification.

Increased Pain is great. Maybe the best from all WE tactics. But... as a glass cannon I had hard time against WL or any tank. With tanky build I have alot more wins than loses. And WB is main abilities here. Maybe after 50rr I will back to crit build.

[bichka]

IP must have in any T4 build.
It's not live where people cares about crit reduction and initiative. So you probably don't need tactic for crits. At current stage of game, there no even conquier gear and players don't have much armor. So, imho, 1+3 branch is more intersting. Ranged kd + PA. I didn't like to play without healdebuf on live, even for soloing rvr. But here things drops too fast .

tltr - WB itself was my favorite "finisher" on live, but at current stage imho, better to go for OYK/PA.