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navis
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Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#1 » Fri May 27, 2016 12:28 am

I was wonding if this ability is supposed to be blocked. AFAIK most spells unless they are considered 'projectile' are not allowed to be blocked. How is it supposed to be?
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Toldavf
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#2 » Fri May 27, 2016 12:56 am

Yes its meant to be defendable. Generaly an ability has to be marked undefendable in order to actually be undefendable.
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navis
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#3 » Sat May 28, 2016 3:58 am

I didn't mean that, as I think it should be able to Disrupted, as well as still be on it's proper Immunity timer. I don't really think it's right that a defensive core ability can be defended by so many categories of defenses.
Right now it can be blocked and disrupted and be on immunity timer.
I am trying to get at that the type-class of each ability should be appropriate but I think with a few abilities there might be some small errors, such as this.
A lot of spells shouldn't be able to be blocked unless they are the type that has a travel time afaik.
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#4 » Sat May 28, 2016 9:36 am

We are not playing DAoC here. All spells, physical ranged and melee attacks are blockable unless they are explicitly stated as undefendable. Projectile or Instant makes no difference here. If your kick gets defended thats a pity, but the same happens for AMs as well so youre not alone here.

navis
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#5 » Sat May 28, 2016 5:27 pm

noisestorm wrote:We are not playing DAoC here. All spells, physical ranged and melee attacks are blockable unless they are explicitly stated as undefendable. Projectile or Instant makes no difference here. If your kick gets defended thats a pity, but the same happens for AMs as well so youre not alone here.
I think you might be mistaken, there. There should be only one class of defense either disrupt of dodge for most spells, with excption of spells with travel time.
I'm pretty sure this is something that became 'normalized' in WAR in order to make INT actually valuable in this regard (instead of Strength).
It's not right that all spells are subject to Block and Disrupt like that, because Melee class don't have to contend with abilities being Parried and Disrupted.

Who is a good RP that remember Rune of Battle being Blocked? Aura's aren't in the class to be blocked. I think there is a big problem with caster classes, here.
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noisestorm
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#6 » Sat May 28, 2016 5:35 pm

Not sure what you mean with "mistaken" here? Auras are no attacks and have no stat bount to them, therefore they are not defendable. And no: Blocking is the superior defense and works (and always did work) against EVERY form of damage/attack unless stated as undefendable.

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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#7 » Sat May 28, 2016 5:41 pm

navis wrote: It's not right that all spells are subject to Block and Disrupt like that, because Melee class don't have to contend with abilities being Parried and Disrupted.
What? Spells are disrupted, ranged attacks are dodged, melee is parried. Block can defend against all 3 forms. Always has. That is the reason Shields are so damned powerful.

And melee classes have their attacks parried all the time. And the Mara pull can be disrupted. My WH's Declare Anathema can be parried/blocked.

Honestly, you only want Shields to be able to block physical attacks? How would that NOT be a major boost to all casters, and a major nerf to both tanks and MDPS?!
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#8 » Sat May 28, 2016 5:48 pm

Rune of Battle was blockable+disruptable on live. Its not an aura, just a blessing on your defensive target.

Block is defence against all attacks, and the other 3 are defence against str/bal/int attacks.

Gotta have a reason why shields are useful, or else why ever take one over a 2h?

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navis
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#9 » Sat May 28, 2016 6:03 pm

You guys are pretty dumb if you think I'm doing this to buff my class or that I'm crying about some ability.
I think if you look closer and combat statistics we are going to find that Block is currently far too effective vs certain spells types. The important part being right now Strength being used by tanks to counter spells casters. The only time I remember Block being that effective is during times when block is 100% or near that like during Shield Wall or when Hold the Line.
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Re: Rune of Sundering blocked?

Post#10 » Sat May 28, 2016 6:04 pm

noisestorm wrote:We are not playing DAoC here.
I'm not sure why you made that comment as a Mod.
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