Can we get an explantion about the T2 rats?

[Chickensaladman]

I hit 12 today and decided to jump into some scenarios and promptly got destroyed all morning by all the higher level players with their higher level gear, So I decided to go and farm some rats only to find out that they are now gone. This usually wouldn't be a big deal but with low lvl pqs broken and getting steam rolled in scenarios by higher lvl players (who honestly probably already rat farmed their lvls) do you really expect me to just do all these tedious PvE quests that don't give nearly enough exp?

[Telen]

If they rat farmed they wont have renown gear so the difference is minor. Ive been on my t2-3 alts the last few nights and am doing fine in greens.

[PartizanRUS]

That doesn't matter. Every spot with champions will do. You just have to found one.

[Nastylicious]

City will still be the best farm spot

[Chickensaladman]

What's the city farm spot?

[Shadowgurke]

So quests are tedious but grinding the same mobs over and over and over is fun? Youre in luck in the PvE areas there are literally thousands and thousands of mobs just waiting for you to farm....

Sorry but the RvR lakes are for RvR not "exciting" grinding.

This is not directed strictly at you. More to the dev team in general. We love the world. We would love nothing more than questing from 1-40. We know you spent a lot of time making these zones ready- But this is a PvP game after all. You want to get to the levelcap. And questing is so much slower even the biggest lover of quests has to consider grinding an option.

[TenTonHammer]

yes unfortunately quest exp is extreamly low and in lower tiers their are now worth while rewards ala epic weapon, its simply more productive to grind mobs

T2 is an ABSOLUTE chore and bore, if you really did remove champ rats then you guys just made it even more painful to plow through, and it not like T2 RvR is even fun

seriously **** mandreds

[wargrimnir]

Get away from this "grind through as fast as you can" mentality. What is needed to make RvR successful? Champ rats were not the answer as each side simply farmed them and ignored each other. Yes, it got you through the tier faster, but the zones were dead when people were clearly in them. Do PvE, report broken quests and PQ's (If they haven't been reported yet), at least that gives our devs plenty of things to fix. The people working on RvR are generally not the ones fixing bad quests and spawns as you can see from the patch notes.

[lilsabin]

they want you to do the same boring pvedoor/rvr/keep sieging over and over again

[Chickensaladman]

Get away from this "grind through as fast as you can" mentality. What is needed to make RvR successful? Champ rats were not the answer as each side simply farmed them and ignored each other. Yes, it got you through the tier faster, but the zones were dead when people were clearly in them. Do PvE, report broken quests and PQ's (If they haven't been reported yet), at least that gives our devs plenty of things to fix. The people working on RvR are generally not the ones fixing bad quests and spawns as you can see from the patch notes.

I mean, dude. All the low lvl pqs are broken. It seriously sucKS when I have to go against lvl 20 players in scenarios bolstered or not. The only thing that happens is I get steam rolled and get no exp.

As for the tier 2 rvr lake, it's for the most part empty. The games just not that populated in t2.