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Weapon Skill - Someone, please... help :(

Post#1 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:59 pm

Okay so I just started Warhammer a week or so ago and have to say this game is awesome. I have played Neverwinter Nights and Neverwinter Online and that is about the extent of my MMO history. But those two games made builds pretty important so I spent quite a bit of time theory crafting and making some pretty successful builds. I am a little at a loss here as I don't have the time I used to, and it is a completely new game to me so if anyone could answer these questions I would be so very grateful.

1. Does Weapon Skill work on RoR?

2. Does it work for Ranged attacks as well?

3. Is it ever a primary stat for instance in an AOE build or will it always be secondary to Int/Str/Bal?

I was searching around on here and the last post I found was like Jun/Jul 2015 and online I tried advice and everyone seemed to think it was working. Sooooo any ideas/opinions/personal experiences on the matter would be LOVELY.

Thank you

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Post#2 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:03 pm

1) yes

2) yes, assuming we are talking about Squigherder/Shadow Warrior

3) no

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Post#3 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:08 pm

Oh wow that was really fast! Ummm, okay so it is never a primary stat. Got it. Only reason I asked is I realllllly was not a fan of the big Morale 2 Fester bomb SW build but seeing how I am in the US my ping is pretty bad and WH wasn't as smooth as I liked it to be. Not the games fault, it's my locations fault :).

Seeing how Assault is pretty good but I had enough fun getting smashed as a light armor frontliner, I picked skirmish and spend most of my time aoe'ing to keep their healers on their toes, spammmmmming my heal debuff and KD'ing targets as the slayers/BW's call them out and it is a lot of fun. I was just asking b/c in my constant rain of spiral arrows I usually target the tank and let the AOE hits rain down on the casters behind them. People have said, stack bal stack bal stack bal but Squishies die anyway when I put the debuff on them and we focus them. So I wondered at what point would WS > Bal say to 25-30%"? 35-40%? Yes I will be testing this when I get time, but if anyone has checked it for any AOE class I would be grateful.

Edit: More specifically - at any point would I perform better as AOE using WS talisman instead of Bal? I guess that would be a more specific question. Or is there no scenario that would ever have that occur?

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Post#4 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:22 pm

http://thekitchenphilosopher.blogspot.c ... skill.html

I think this info is still correct/up to date, someone will have to comment. Str should be interchangeable with BS here.
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Post#5 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:32 pm

freshour wrote: Only reason I asked is I realllllly was not a fan of the big Morale 2 Fester bomb SW build but seeing how I am in the US my ping is pretty bad and WH wasn't as smooth as I liked it to be.
I may misinterpret something here, but if you assume that WS works on Festering Arrow (or anything that does corp/spirit or elemental damage), then you are mistkane. WS only buffs skills that have a physical damage component. therefore WS will also never be a secondary stat to any class that uses Int ;) .

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You can , or rather should, always stack Crit and after that Balli no matter what. If your balli reaches the orange numbers then you are free to go for Weaponskill. Basically you shouldnt ever be hitting targets where WS would actually help in the first place. Because lets say you have 25% ignore from WS, you hit a Zealot who has 1k armor, then youre hitting on 750 armor instead then. But since they're about ~1400armor debuffed anyways, it doesnt matter if you have WS or not. If youre hitting on a 3k armor tank on the other hand the WS can come in handy, but like said before that is exactly what you normally should try to avoid though. Hope that helps you a bit

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Post#6 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:48 am

Oh yeah all of this is extremely helpful. I didn't mean that I was considering weapon skill for the fester bomb build. I was considering as an alternative. But you guys have made it much more clear. I do realize that I should never see a tank and be like "Target Acquired" unless it is to KD him, snare him, heal debuff him etc.

It was all in the speculation of doing AOE as a skirm build and if WS at certain levels would be worth looking into as single target max DPS is not really the skirms thing as much as it is to keep healers honest, control the guy who needs controlled and make every single destro healer sweat a little bit.

Thanks guys!

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Post#7 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:48 am

Oh yeah all of this is extremely helpful. I didn't mean that I was considering weapon skill for the fester bomb build. I was considering as an alternative. But you guys have made it much more clear. I do realize that I should never see a tank and be like "Target Acquired" unless it is to KD him, snare him, heal debuff him etc.

It was all in the speculation of doing AOE as a skirm build and if WS at certain levels would be worth looking into as single target max DPS is not really the skirms thing as much as it is to keep healers honest, control the guy who needs controlled and make every single destro healer sweat a little bit.

Thanks guys!

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Post#8 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:06 am

freshour wrote:Oh yeah all of this is extremely helpful. I didn't mean that I was considering weapon skill for the fester bomb build. I was considering as an alternative. But you guys have made it much more clear. I do realize that I should never see a tank and be like "Target Acquired" unless it is to KD him, snare him, heal debuff him etc.

It was all in the speculation of doing AOE as a skirm build and if WS at certain levels would be worth looking into as single target max DPS is not really the skirms thing as much as it is to keep healers honest, control the guy who needs controlled and make every single destro healer sweat a little bit.

Thanks guys!

well thats easier said then done, cause normally the cloth targets are WAY behind the tanks, so to hit them you mostly will stand within the tanks and their guarded mdps hitting YOU. ;)
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Re: Weapon Skill - Someone, please... help :(

Post#9 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:35 pm

Agreed with Tiggo:

I run as much WS on my SH as possible. Yes, if I ran higher BS I would kill lighter armored target faster. However, there are a ton of fat dwarves blocking the buffet table.
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