[Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

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Penril
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Re: [Knight ofA.... the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strate

Post#91 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:20 pm

th3gatekeeper wrote:
2) If you are attacking a caster (anyone without a shield) then they cannot block. While it includes Parry most casters dont stack parry AND I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that Weapon Skill is the offensive "check" against Parry, and via Runefang you can easily get upwards of 450 Weapon Skill meaning their chance to parry is slim to non even if stacking it.
Incorrect. It is Str. WS only gives you more armor penetration and a bonus to your own parry.
th3gatekeeper wrote: You have to remember, tanks are not speccing this far into the tree as you cannot get 20% team crit buff yet. Even @ 40 itll still be better to get Focused Mending instead. So I guess, isnt it clear something needs to change if the "Best Knight Build" involves not getting any capstones and doing Mastery JUST to get 3 tactics LOL?!
If that is the best Knight build, it's because those 3 tactics give you massive buffs while requiring pretty much no effort from your part. It is not because the other Knight tactics/skills are bad. A slight adjustment/nerf to how DT/EA/FM work is needed imho (same with Destroy Confidence of course).

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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#92 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:35 pm

Don't be the Tesq, Penril >_< Buff other tactics/skills if you want to see them used.
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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#93 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:37 pm

Scrilian wrote:Don't be the Tesq, Penril >_< Buff other tactics/skills if you want to see them used.
How about no?

Because that is what causes power creep
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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#94 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:37 pm

Scrilian wrote:Don't be the Tesq, Penril >_< Buff other tactics/skills if you want to see them used.
You are so cute, asking for KotBS buffs.

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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#95 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:45 pm

What is a power creep and why it is bad?
There is limited amount of mastery points/tactic slots, you can't have it all. It's not like anyone even asking here for any buffs for the baseline abilities or improving the existing strong ones, aside of whatever mr. nerf-moderator sees.
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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#96 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:52 pm

Scrilian wrote:What is a power creep and why it is bad?
There is limited amount of mastery points/tactic slots, you can't have it all. It's not like anyone even asking here for any buffs for the baseline abilities or improving the existing strong ones, aside of whatever mr. nerf-moderator sees.
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What a cute strawman :^)
Mr. Nerf-Moderator... I like it.

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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#97 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:35 pm

You shouldn't. It means - all you can do, is a talking about nerfing something, what means, again, that you are no use to this game.
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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#98 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:10 pm

Soulcheg wrote:You shouldn't. It means - all you can do, is a talking about nerfing something, what means, again, that you are no use to this game.
I like it because it is the best they can come up with when i suggest nerfs to KotBS. And yes, this nerf-mod will ban you from the Balance Discussion forums if you use "arguments" like that one.

I pointed out that people use EA/DT/FM because they give excellent buffs/debuffs with minimal effort from the KotBS, and not because the other KotBS skills/tactics are bad. Therefore, the mentioned tactics should be looked into. The counter-argument? "Nerf-Mod".

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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#99 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:31 pm

If your whole argument revolved around your feels about these tactics being too good - better look at the 13pt kotbs sidetrees abilites and tactics like Efficient Swings or Sunfury. which are almost never taken.
Buff/change them and the so called problem will cease to exist. But I guess better nerf Kotbs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: [Knight of the Blazing Sun] Tactics, Builds, Strategies

Post#100 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:49 pm

Scrilian wrote:If your whole argument revolved around your feels about these tactics being too good - better look at the 13pt kotbs sidetrees abilites and tactics like Efficient Swings or Sunfury. which are almost never taken.
Buff/change them and the so called problem will cease to exist. But I guess better nerf Kotbs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There are two possible scenarios for a class when only one (maybe 2) specs are ever considered.

1) The class has only a few tactics/skills that are good, while the rest lack any usefulness. In this case, the underperforming tactics/skills should be looked into and buffed accordingly so they are a viable option in different specs.

2) The class has several good specs, tactics and skills. Yet everyone always goes for the same cookie-cutter build because it is more powerful than the others. In this case, the tactics/skills in this cookie-cutter build should be looked into and adjust them accordingly so they no longer out-perform the other tactics/skills which are already good (and therefore don't need a buff).

I firmly believe KotBs fits in the second group, and i am willing to explain why. As long as i dont get memes, adjectives, or "¯\_(ツ)_/¯" in reply.

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