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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#61 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:52 am

fontin wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:46 am people are inevitably drawn to the easy mode side.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#62 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:52 pm

state of pve door is ridicolous. Full order wbs chasing solo player through whole maps cause they dont need even defend ram.

But nobody cares about that, soon everyone go we know where :)

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#63 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:21 pm

Quick solution - long story short

1) focus on balance more often than once per few years

2) remove boxes. Holding bos to level keep. More bos in Control - faster progress. IT force blobs to split instead of carryig single box with whole WB or more.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#64 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:32 pm

Well, thought i would give a little update:

On both Monday and Tuesday (which usually are low pop days for NA) we had TWO Destro WBs online, and we won the lakes. Don't know what happened on Wednesday tho, wasn't there for long.

So thank you everybody that gave leading a try, and everybody that gave their WBs a try.

Shoutout (in no particular order) to Chimpp, Big Inc, SVG (for leading Order on Tuesday and giving us great fights) and Tyrexx.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#65 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:53 pm

bahellen24 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:52 pm state of pve door is ridicolous. Full order wbs chasing solo player through whole maps cause they dont need even defend ram.
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Both destro and order players do the same and it has always been the case, same behaviors each side. Some period one or the other faction win and then this domination reverse itself like a cycle. Subject would be more about player capacity to switch to the underdog realm when needed (and fair play but this is another story !) About playing solo, some would say go in a group/wb, some others that it implies to accept to be zerged.. :p
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#66 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:34 am

Garamore wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:10 pm Starts with a warband leader - without that there’s no hope. EU day is tending to order too as there’s no destro wb leader in that time - some of that is down to eu prime being destro dominated and order avoiding it but mainly it’s down to a warband leader not playing as much on destro now they are rr100 as they used to and server not adjusting (no blame at all)
IMAO, Thats the mainly problem of RoR - generally rigid clingin thinking.
WE MUST have ledears , because WE MUST have warbands, no matter what going on or how many years flow away.
Maybe we should changing thinking about game, remowe bosses from keep, make wb max 12 ppl, let the small group carry the the initiative in fights.
On Age of Reckoning one WH called Blackbird spend hours to pushing zones solo on BO. Maybe its time for lone heroes not managers?

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#67 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:05 am

Keep believing that and you will keep getting farmed..... Change to 12 in a wb and you still need a wb leader. Remember this is a failed game on live as its a PvP mmo and the soloers and those that didnt want to group got farmed out of the game. Nothing has changed really.

WBs are effective, 2-2-2 wbs with the right classes are the most effective. Anything else is stealing aao from your fellow realmates.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#68 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:33 pm

Acidic wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:01 pm
Garamore wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:31 pm That was mainly due to the EU staying up late to push campaign and some promotional videos. Summer peak eu has been around 7-800 so not dead by a long way.

Totally get that outside of eu prime time it’s order dominated - as other people have said - needs a committed NA destro wb leader and some people to support them.
Needs more than a WB leader to fix the state.
Even EU times it starting to have significant order outnumbering, and that is a fast slippery slope to NA state.
Best way to get into the NA State is to keep doing what you guys are doing. Farming pugs at the warcamp. It happens every day and on both sides depending on what side is overpopulated. I honestly think the worst thing you can do as a leader in the game is to continue to over and over farm the same group to the point they log out. Because eventually they don't log back in. Fight at tavern in Tala/BFP (farm pugs) fight at warcamp in Praag (farm pugs) fight at Warcamp in Eataine (farm pugs) etc. Spread out, roam. Don't mass swamp a 12 man that dares to venture out into a zone to fight 3 wbs. Police yourselves.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#69 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:49 pm

Garamore wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:05 am Keep believing that and you will keep getting farmed..... Change to 12 in a wb and you still need a wb leader. Remember this is a failed game on live as its a PvP mmo and the soloers and those that didnt want to group got farmed out of the game. Nothing has changed really.

WBs are effective, 2-2-2 wbs with the right classes are the most effective. Anything else is stealing aao from your fellow realmates.
Mate, HoB goes to Order, Destro lost leader , Order earned new - and nothing changes. old same bridgehammer in Caledor old wc abuse in Chaos Waste.
Trust me, if RoR will have any strong fresh impulse, a fossil will remain. That a fate of every longterm project - what not changing - dies.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#70 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:12 pm

When we have been out on order I think nights have changed - each time there's been more open fights, we haven't sat in a keep once even with most of the wb sub rr60 - even in lotd order kept fighting to the end rather than hole up in the warcamp.

When we go out on destro its the same as ever with little competition hence why we now do some days order and some days destro.
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