Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

[Dajciekrwi]

Starts with a warband leader - without that there’s no hope. EU day is tending to order too as there’s no destro wb leader in that time - some of that is down to eu prime being destro dominated and order avoiding it but mainly it’s down to a warband leader not playing as much on destro now they are rr100 as they used to and server not adjusting (no blame at all)

IMAO, Thats the mainly problem of RoR - generally rigid clingin thinking.
WE MUST have ledears , because WE MUST have warbands, no matter what going on or how many years flow away.
Maybe we should changing thinking about game, remowe bosses from keep, make wb max 12 ppl, let the small group carry the the initiative in fights.
On Age of Reckoning one WH called Blackbird spend hours to pushing zones solo on BO. Maybe its time for lone heroes not managers?

[Garamore]

Keep believing that and you will keep getting farmed..... Change to 12 in a wb and you still need a wb leader. Remember this is a failed game on live as its a PvP mmo and the soloers and those that didnt want to group got farmed out of the game. Nothing has changed really.

WBs are effective, 2-2-2 wbs with the right classes are the most effective. Anything else is stealing aao from your fellow realmates.

[Akalukz]

That was mainly due to the EU staying up late to push campaign and some promotional videos. Summer peak eu has been around 7-800 so not dead by a long way.

Totally get that outside of eu prime time it’s order dominated - as other people have said - needs a committed NA destro wb leader and some people to support them.

Needs more than a WB leader to fix the state.
Even EU times it starting to have significant order outnumbering, and that is a fast slippery slope to NA state.

Best way to get into the NA State is to keep doing what you guys are doing. Farming pugs at the warcamp. It happens every day and on both sides depending on what side is overpopulated. I honestly think the worst thing you can do as a leader in the game is to continue to over and over farm the same group to the point they log out. Because eventually they don't log back in. Fight at tavern in Tala/BFP (farm pugs) fight at warcamp in Praag (farm pugs) fight at Warcamp in Eataine (farm pugs) etc. Spread out, roam. Don't mass swamp a 12 man that dares to venture out into a zone to fight 3 wbs. Police yourselves.

[Dajciekrwi]

Keep believing that and you will keep getting farmed..... Change to 12 in a wb and you still need a wb leader. Remember this is a failed game on live as its a PvP mmo and the soloers and those that didnt want to group got farmed out of the game. Nothing has changed really.

WBs are effective, 2-2-2 wbs with the right classes are the most effective. Anything else is stealing aao from your fellow realmates.

Mate, HoB goes to Order, Destro lost leader , Order earned new - and nothing changes. old same bridgehammer in Caledor old wc abuse in Chaos Waste.
Trust me, if RoR will have any strong fresh impulse, a fossil will remain. That a fate of every longterm project - what not changing - dies.

[Garamore]

When we have been out on order I think nights have changed - each time there's been more open fights, we haven't sat in a keep once even with most of the wb sub rr60 - even in lotd order kept fighting to the end rather than hole up in the warcamp.

When we go out on destro its the same as ever with little competition hence why we now do some days order and some days destro.

[Ixlevomaxlxl]

o/

I have been hesitent to make an appreance on here [the forums] for the exact same reason in LIVE; talk is cheap.

For all you order, xrealmers, and people that genuinely enjoy order lore, stay over on that side. I need my Against All Odds at 400% [just like it was when I mained my order characters in LIVE] all the time.

To those of you that visit us during the weekend scenario events or que for scenarios in general, if you're going to surrender, then commit to your surrenders and log on Order. I need my instant ques all day long!

And to those sexy solo players and small scale pvpers (duo, trio, or quaddies), reach out. I'll be giving free swimming lessons out in the lake.

Lastly, to anyone that needs a new home or has a desire to get better at the game. Reach out. I will help you when I can or get you in contact with those that can help you with the gameplay you desire.

I will leave allya'all with this...

You don't know how much you miss something until it is gone. I played the game from beta until the dark dayz (server closure) and to be able to swim in the lakes, learn the lore from the game [because I didn't during LIVE], and talk playful trash to show realm pride, all goes away, if we as a community don't establish better
values for each other, especially new or returning players. I am looking at you, you elitists.

Tootles,
Evo

P.S. Don't let me catch you slipping.

[Szeff]

The side that can literally mow down tank lines by ignoring their stacked defensive stats is the side that wins all of forts/keeps. Hmmm what a shocker.

[Garamore]

It’s not choppa pulls meaning destro win in open RvR or rampage meaning that it’s 10-0 in forts. It’s a lack of people willing to do anything about realm balance that causes it. Orders forts are taken usually with 80-10 numbers during off peak times

[Dackjanielz]

It’s not choppa pulls meaning destro win in open RvR or rampage meaning that it’s 10-0 in forts. It’s a lack of people willing to do anything about realm balance that causes it. Orders forts are taken usually with 80-10 numbers during off peak times

Those two abilities most definately are causing alot of issues, but people X realming is also a big problem.
You are both right and wrong.

[Garamore]

You could get rid of gtdc and order would still get farmed during eu prime time. Likewise you could get rid of rampage and order would still pvdoor in non eu prime time.

These are choices being made by players in the game. In EU primetime destro has more organised wbs and no issue with running in one mass. Order reluctant to engage and gets steam rolled. In non EU primetime there's not much 8 people can do when outnumbered 10-1.