Return of Reckoning

dansari wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:20 pm

Mystry wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:02 pm My only problem with SM's new Redirect Force is the fact that the enchantment procs off of blocks. Unlike their mirror Black Orc, SM has no way to significantly increase block, outside of Perfect Defenses and that's only 10%. Would have been better to have it proc off of parry/disrupt/dodge instead, as SM can actually get high numbers of those.

Which would be too much proccing given the ability is 5pt and is not a channel, whereas the BO equivalent is. And the ability is in the defensive (snb) tree.

I've spent the last few hours testing this new ability out and it's very underwhelming. It does a VERY small amount of damage, has a 50% uptime, and requires a defense that SM can't really get high amounts of to proc off of. I even swapped renown points around into Defender and started using M2 Shield Wall and it just doesn't feel worth it. I love the idea of it, since I've been jealous of BO's ability to do something similar ever since I made an SM, but it needs tweaking to come into its own, IMO.

Torquemadra wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:30 pm

Tesq wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:18 pm

dansari wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:10 pm

On RF? It has no icd.

Then it is way too good for a 5 pt skill, that + cd decrease is gnam for any s+b sm

Time to go s+b then xD

stop making assumptions and start trying stuff

I want but not at home i will for sure when i will get back

BO bonuses might be a bit much at the moment. Halving them might be better. 0.5% heal per minute per BO, 12.5% damage bonus per BO, with a total of 4% heal per minute and 100% damage bonus at 4 BOs.

Even with 60% AAO and the enemy only holding 2 BOs, Lords are damn near invincible now.

Edit- 1 BO and can't take Lord. Maybe even quartering the bonus is necessary...

we need the old system of flags, take a bo and lock it 3 minutes.

perche wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:21 pm we need the old system of flags, take a bo and lock it 3 minutes.

No we don't.

Rydiak wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:03 pm BO bonuses might be a bit much at the moment. Halving them might be better. 0.5% heal per minute per BO, 12.5% damage bonus per BO, with a total of 4% heal per minute and 100% damage bonus at 4 BOs.

Even with 60% AAO and the enemy only holding 2 BOs, Lords are damn near invincible now.

Edit- 1 BO and can't take Lord. Maybe even quartering the bonus is necessary...

Lord kills you or you can't outDPS the heal from 1 BO?

Hargrim wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:57 pm

Rydiak wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:03 pm BO bonuses might be a bit much at the moment. Halving them might be better. 0.5% heal per minute per BO, 12.5% damage bonus per BO, with a total of 4% heal per minute and 100% damage bonus at 4 BOs.

Even with 60% AAO and the enemy only holding 2 BOs, Lords are damn near invincible now.

Edit- 1 BO and can't take Lord. Maybe even quartering the bonus is necessary...

Lord kills you or you can't outDPS the heal from 1 BO?

Currently fighting in Ostland/Troll Country, Destro had our Lord engaged (us Order had 60% AAO) while we held between 1 to 2 BOs. The lowest the Lord ever dipped in health was 86%, and the health was constantly ticking up and down by 1% (86, 87, 86, 87, 88, 89, 88% etc). Destro eventually gave up and left the Keep, leaving the doors to repair, because even with that population advantage they could not leverage enough damage against the Lord (or send enough people to stop Order from holding 1 or 2 BOs at the same time) to secure the Keep.

I wasn't in Ostland/Troll Country yet, but supposedly Order had sieged the Destro keep earlier and had similar results.

We had several WB's at the lord and atleast one WB tryin to stop Order from taking BO's but it was just impossible to get the lord down. At one point he buged into a wall (according to chat) but still, he was healing way to much and even with the big number advantage we had there was no way to get the lord down. There need to be a fix for this.

Right now the zone is just dying because no one can do something there.

Dwanex wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:14 pm We had several WB's at the lord and atleast one WB which tried to stop Order from taking BO's but it was just impossible to get the lord down. At one point he buged into a wall (according to chat) but still, he was healing way to much and even with the bug number advantage we had there was no way to get the lord down. There need to be a fix for this

Yea, you guys kept hitting us on BOs with your WB to clear us off, and we'd simply move to another BO and the Lord would keep healing.

Torquemadra wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:17 pm

Dwanex wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:14 pm We had several WB's at the lord and atleast one WB tryin to stop Order from taking BO's but it was just impossible to get the lord down. At one point he buged into a wall (according to chat) but still, he was healing way to much and even with the big number advantage we had there was no way to get the lord down. There need to be a fix for this.

Right now the zone is just dying because no one can do something there.

Instead of a warband floating 4 BOs try 1 BO per 6 people....

There were enough order to stomp 6ppl at a BO. It was enough for all the order to run between BO's so that Dest had to pull atleast 1+WB every time to just get ONE BO not taken by them.