[PTS] WE/WH Feedback

[Slowbro]

Wh was nerved like 3 years in a row. That tiny crit buff for Bal is noting compared to the Nerf the class has seen. I was faithful to the class, but now that the Defs have clearly shown that they do no longer allow the class on the server, but they don't have the balls to delete it, it is clear that one has to switch to another class.

[Loans]

Given wh/we are the most played classes plus they are solo friendly I guess that is a clear sign they want people to move to other classes but without saying it. That's my guess.

My first thought was to just move to another solo class like dps rp/zeal then maybe after enough crying on forum they will finally nerf it, who knows.

[jdohe003]

Hello, nobody WH here. Another hat thrown into the ring to please reconsider the stealth change. I enjoy the class to be sneaky sneaky not to be OP. Sure make damage tweaks as seen fit.

Is the problem too many stealthers running together or something else? How about a debuff for 2/3+ in close proximity that they can’t stealth within x amount of distance of each other in RVR or something?

If the change is to go through as is, could we get other compensation in the form of Sanctified Oil and the WE equivalent to have extended duration to 5 seconds? I also like the idea of stealth resetting on a DB. Possibly tied to a tactic like Blood, Faith, & Fire? Anyways please consider keeping stealth enjoyable for this class. Thank you!

[Narfii]

Hello, nobody WH here. Another hat thrown into the ring to please reconsider the stealth change. I enjoy the class to be sneaky sneaky not to be OP. Sure make damage tweaks as seen fit.

Is the problem too many stealthers running together or something else? How about a debuff for 2/3+ in close proximity that they can’t stealth within x amount of distance of each other in RVR or something?

If the change is to go through as is, could we get other compensation in the form of Sanctified Oil and the WE equivalent to have extended duration to 5 seconds? I also like the idea of stealth resetting on a DB. Possibly tied to a tactic like Blood, Faith, & Fire? Anyways please consider keeping stealth enjoyable for this class. Thank you!

The only thing worse than the stealth duration change would be a debuff for multiple stealthers. The class shouldn't be punished for its own mechanic.

[Shogun4138]

SaC stab double nerf. First a reduction in damage and next a nerf to armor pen which essentially reduces damage. While a WH can armor debuff you to make and BaL hits to 5k damage but no nerf. Seems fare.

Again, stealth timer nerf to both classes wasn't ever asked for. People complained about regen items and abilities. Yet nothing happened on those fronts. I assume enough other players utilize regen so the fear of hurting those classes would be to much.

[Mordecaieth]

Capping incognito duration was such a change focused on the wrong direction. Stealth being broken after being hit 10 times is insane.

It should be a 40-50% chance of losing stealth on being hit, many people have suggested this for a long time to maintain quality of life for small man engagements. Stealth duration or lack thereof I think many of us never cared too much about.

[Loans]

SaC stab double nerf. First a reduction in damage and next a nerf to armor pen which essentially reduces damage. While a WH can armor debuff you to make and BaL hits to 5k damage but no nerf. Seems fare.

Again, stealth timer nerf to both classes wasn't ever asked for. People complained about regen items and abilities. Yet nothing happened on those fronts. I assume enough other players utilize regen so the fear of hurting those classes would be to much.

Also not to mention that a wh can go out of stealth using the armor debuff ability and gain +2 without a target while WE has nothing similar

[Narfii]

SaC stab double nerf. First a reduction in damage and next a nerf to armor pen which essentially reduces damage. While a WH can armor debuff you to make and BaL hits to 5k damage but no nerf. Seems fare.

Again, stealth timer nerf to both classes wasn't ever asked for. People complained about regen items and abilities. Yet nothing happened on those fronts. I assume enough other players utilize regen so the fear of hurting those classes would be to much.

Also not to mention that a wh can go out of stealth using the armor debuff ability and gain +2 without a target while WE has nothing similar

There is such an opener on we. It applies an aoe debuff that deals damage on spell cast. You might not know of it cuz it's absolute ASS.