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Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:00 am
by emiliorv
heybaws wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:17 pm
Spoiler:
teiloh wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:21 pm
heybaws wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:08 pm FBB has less range than shadow knives!
Balance experts we deserved i guess.
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https://www.calculator.net/circle-calculator.html

Here's a useful tool to estimate how many more targets a 20 vs. 10 ft radius will catch.
You only proving my point by posts like that. Shadow knives have nothing to do with basic sorc aoe rotation, this skill only used if rotation got screwed for whatever reason and sorc wants to keep up dmg chain for 1 second with something else. Like i said you desperatly trying to find any kind of "advantage" that destro has to prove your point that order is weaker. And in reality you come up with laughable garbage like this, comparing knives with FBB and coming to conclusion that sorc is better cause knives have a better range.
Those advantages are not even work on paper for anyone who ever played both sides. I'm not making fun of you cause some of that stuff doesn't exist, but because its never being used like one. But you have no idea because you just another clueless pug player who pretends to be a balance expert.
You've been given a video example where order premade sucesfully fighting destro premades and you still grasping for any excuse you can get from ror builder of why thats doesnt prove anything.
wasting your time with the guy whos using his "live sorc" experience for his balance discussions in ROR.. LMAO

This quote is pure gold...for sure another yolo-order-pugger:
teiloh wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:52 pm Rampage is overrated, RUN AWAY! was hands down the best tactic in the game.

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:21 pm
by heybaws
emiliorv wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:00 am
heybaws wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:17 pm
Spoiler:
teiloh wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:21 pm

Image

https://www.calculator.net/circle-calculator.html

Here's a useful tool to estimate how many more targets a 20 vs. 10 ft radius will catch.
You only proving my point by posts like that. Shadow knives have nothing to do with basic sorc aoe rotation, this skill only used if rotation got screwed for whatever reason and sorc wants to keep up dmg chain for 1 second with something else. Like i said you desperatly trying to find any kind of "advantage" that destro has to prove your point that order is weaker. And in reality you come up with laughable garbage like this, comparing knives with FBB and coming to conclusion that sorc is better cause knives have a better range.
Those advantages are not even work on paper for anyone who ever played both sides. I'm not making fun of you cause some of that stuff doesn't exist, but because its never being used like one. But you have no idea because you just another clueless pug player who pretends to be a balance expert.
You've been given a video example where order premade sucesfully fighting destro premades and you still grasping for any excuse you can get from ror builder of why thats doesnt prove anything.
wasting your time with the guy whos using his "live sorc" experience for his balance discussions in ROR.. LMAO

This quote is pure gold...for sure another yolo-order-pugger:
teiloh wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:52 pm Rampage is overrated, RUN AWAY! was hands down the best tactic in the game.
i liked "dont waste your gcd on onslaught if you wanna spam ID" more to be honest.

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:06 pm
by teiloh
heybaws wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:21 pm

i liked "dont waste your gcd on onslaught if you wanna spam ID" more to be honest.
Another reading comprehension fail. He argued that ID spam was uniquely powerful, and argued that against spamming cures to counter spamming ID you'd open with Onslaught, which is still a GCD.

Try not to be so blatant in using the Karen tactic of ****ing on a balance thread to silence it. Don't worry, if you lose EZmode you can always learn how to play.

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:57 am
by Sofong
order always is 1 trick pony ez mode, most oder classes need no more than 1 action bar to play to their max potential.

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:03 am
by Onigokko0101
Elemint wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:26 pm Nitpicked cities from a year ago, are you serious? Cherry picked instances against opponents that never stood a chance. Since that time order has only been nerfed, while destruction keeps getting order unique abilities mirrored. But TuP will always swap to the overperforming realm then say it's actually underdog, nothing new there. Good video btw.
You sound salty that TUP are better players then you :)

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:15 am
by zumos2
teiloh wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:06 pm
heybaws wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:21 pm

i liked "dont waste your gcd on onslaught if you wanna spam ID" more to be honest.
Another reading comprehension fail. He argued that ID spam was uniquely powerful, and argued that against spamming cures to counter spamming ID you'd open with Onslaught, which is still a GCD.

Try not to be so blatant in using the Karen tactic of ****ing on a balance thread to silence it. Don't worry, if you lose EZmode you can always learn how to play.
Which is also not true because Onslaught has more range, meaning you can use it to cover for ID before you get in range to apply ID.

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:04 pm
by Arek4
This discussion is pointless today,
I'll conclude
As of today, if you want to play easy and "fun" (easy mode) play on the Destro side.
If you like to play hardcore (hardcore mode), play on the Order side (you have to work hard to win)

Re: Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:36 pm
by teiloh
zumos2 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:15 am Which is also not true because Onslaught has more range, meaning you can use it to cover for ID before you get in range to apply ID.
Yep, but it's going to be a one-time thing per DPS cycle if the follow up is just using all the train's time to lay down IDs. ID is particularly weak to cures because one DOK could in theory cleanse the IDs of 6 different Slayers in one button press. If they're all assisting on a single target, that target might die and lose the IDs or simply be able to walk away from the rest of its group.

IMO ID is cool because it procs a lot but it's not a DPS monster.