Order OP - gameplay from first 5 weeks of city sieges

[FHilton]

Please close this thread , nobody cares about 2020 .

[heybaws]

Watching how telioh desperatly grasping for literally anything he can to justify his bias is the best entertainment so far. Seriously: chosens and blackguards running movespeed after disrupt tactic in current meta, destro OP! X D
DoKs cleansing ID spam, Onslaught being non optimal to use as Slayer! X D
3 target Kotbs snare is not aoe snare!
FBB has less range than shadow knives!
Balance experts we deserved i guess.

[CeeJay89]

Watching how telioh desperatly grasping for literally anything he can to justify his bias is the best entertainment so far. Seriously: chosens and blackguards running movespeed after disrupt tactic in current meta, destro OP! X D
DoKs cleansing ID spam, Onslaught being non optimal to use as Slayer! X D
3 target Kotbs snare is not aoe snare!
FBB has less range than shadow knives!
Balance experts we deserved i guess.

-DoKs can technically spam AoE cleanse with no cooldown for at least 30s, so I mean... yeah it works.

-3 target KotBS was being compared to 24 target Blackguard. If you wanted to refute his claims, you likely should argue uptime.

- FBB does have less range than Shadow Knives, though, so... which is better is up to you.

Look, you're welcome to disagree with people, but at least be genuine. If you're going to call someone out on bias, maybe don't be...bias?

[lyncher12]

yes less range on fbb or bg snare being more aoe than kotbs is why order struggles to win

please immediately change everything devs i am begging you, pug city was not enough!

[chovudal]

order op lol

[teiloh]

FBB has less range than shadow knives!
Balance experts we deserved i guess.

Radius, not range.

[sighy]

If order formed a warband with 5 BW now they would probably lose to pugs. None of the videos even feature the mythic "Slayer Train" . Is this meant to show something?

That was before 6th of may, when the choppa and slayer aoe cap was like doubled to 24(one benefitted more than the other) And even before then there have been majority slayer warbands run by Zunig, for example.

[heybaws]

FBB has less range than shadow knives!
Balance experts we deserved i guess.

https://www.calculator.net/circle-calculator.html

Here's a useful tool to estimate how many more targets a 20 vs. 10 ft radius will catch.

You only proving my point by posts like that. Shadow knives have nothing to do with basic sorc aoe rotation, this skill only used if rotation got screwed for whatever reason and sorc wants to keep up dmg chain for 1 second with something else. Like i said you desperatly trying to find any kind of "advantage" that destro has to prove your point that order is weaker. And in reality you come up with laughable garbage like this, comparing knives with FBB and coming to conclusion that sorc is better cause knives have a better range.
Those advantages are not even work on paper for anyone who ever played both sides. I'm not making fun of you cause some of that stuff doesn't exist, but because its never being used like one. But you have no idea because you just another clueless pug player who pretends to be a balance expert.
You've been given a video example where order premade sucesfully fighting destro premades and you still grasping for any excuse you can get from ror builder of why thats doesnt prove anything.

[teiloh]

You only proving my point by posts like that. Shadow knives have nothing to do with basic sorc aoe rotation, this skill only used if rotation got screwed for whatever reason and sorc wants to keep up dmg chain for 1 second with something else. Like i said you desperatly trying to find any kind of "advantage" that destro has to prove your point that order is weaker. And in reality you come up with laughable garbage like this, comparing knives with FBB and coming to conclusion that sorc is better cause knives have a better range.
Those advantages are not even work on paper for anyone who ever played both sides. I'm not making fun of you cause some of that stuff doesn't exist, but because its never being used like one. But you have no idea because you just another clueless pug player who pretends to be a balance expert.
You've been given a video example where order premade sucesfully fighting destro premades and you still grasping for any excuse you can get from ror builder of why thats doesnt prove anything.

People laughed at me on live when I said to combine Chop Fasta and IW. You should base your conjecture more off facts than emotions.

What is your Sorc rotation? Not much to work with here if you want to theorycraft.

[cynicprophet]

Im sure in time the more you get experience and learn how to play as a team your results will improve.But in this current situation the way you speak make you sound very ignorant and trollish.Until then take care.