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Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:09 pm
by Bozzax
Here is your base % to be crit with diff ini (and debuffed curves).

If your ini drop below 100-ish you pretty much explode and having a 180 debuff puts the safe zone at 280-300.

E: tbh even 100-ish is quite vulnerable wo full FS

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Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:32 pm
by Reesh
Oh boy, it's gonna be locked so hard.

So, there are two hot topics on the table, this one, and spammable moral drain of maras.

Lets just give ini debuff mirror to melee sh, and spammable aoe moral drain to wl or slayer.

Everyone will be happy and there shall be less "my realm doesn't have what your realm has".


Or maybe, it's just negligible and it's all about skill of players in a team? We will never know.

Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:36 pm
by Darosh
Bozzax wrote:
Spoiler:
Here is your base % to be crit with diff ini (and debuffed curves).

If your ini drop below 100-ish you pretty much explode and having a 180 debuff puts the safe zone at 280-300.

E: tbh even 100-ish is quite vulnerable.

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Very nice visualization, math only makes sense this way ~ plain numbers just don't grasp people's attention.
This double debuff is pretty much gankbus/engima T2 shenanigans on steroids, all things considered.

Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:32 pm
by bloodi
This should not be a thing.

Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:05 pm
by Scrilian
Slightly overperforming tactic on a generally underpeforming class. Nothing buggy here tbh.

Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:42 pm
by Skavok
Scrilian wrote:Slightly overperforming tactic on a generally underpeforming class. Nothing buggy here tbh.
Giving the entire Order realm 100%+ crit chance is slightly over performing? :lol:

Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:56 pm
by Panzerkasper
Scrilian wrote:Slightly overperforming tactic on a generally underpeforming class. Nothing buggy here tbh.
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Tell that to the SWs on the server that actually know what they are doing.

Re: SW 180 Init debuff

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:06 pm
by sogeou
If you have a chosen with you running Crippling Strikes that will help out a lot. More people should do this.