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Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:40 am
by Cyrylius
Kotbs gets an armor aura and chosen doesn't because armor buff is already present on blork, and not on SM. Idea was to give a group buff to a class of every archetype on both sides i would imagine.
Pugs are unaffected, since they didn't generally use armor pots at all. Most complaints ive heard are actually from solo players who have been nerfed across the board for not having a group.
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:54 am
by rady
Looks like black orc is now the only tank without proper self armor buff...
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:21 am
by tefnaht
Sinisterror wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:30 am
Wh having 1k armour debuff aoe is probably oversight? Does anyone except tanks get 800 armour proc buff on wpn/anywhere and does anyone else except melee dps+Dps wp get 800 armour debuff proc on wpn or anywhere? And I do think that Nerfing Armour Potions might bring more harm. Things like 700 armour buff proc UNIVERSAL cloak gear is needed now more than ever : D Edit. For some reason i thought wounds is not affected, because they are usually the exception and should be that way, no stacking because one realm having huge advantage.
Or start adding 120 wounds buff procs to all classes : D
Nice to see good old tradition, if order has something valuable unmirrored - nerf it or give destro mirror, if destro - not all have to be mirrored.
About armour debuffs - they stay the same, wh has aoe debuff+bullets proc on DG and still has no place in org wb and builds options "be a glass" or "be a ultra glass", we has more abilities and additional option "be a tankie with damage"(yes, this nerfed but still playable, order side nerfs basically delete builds from the game).
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:23 am
by Fenris78
rady wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:54 am
Looks like black orc is now the only tank without proper self armor buff...
Da Greenest War Bellow is a self and group armour buff.
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:54 am
by normanis
georgehabadasher wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:31 am
Akalukz wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:24 am
I know i must be missing something, but why does KoTBS now get a group armor buff and Chosen doesn't? Order now has 2 classes that can group buff and destro has 1? Or does the BO count as the other.
In addition, Order has access to the Warrior Priest wounds buff, which now stacks with liniments at full value--128 wounds total in most specs.
just checked it and seems order again has too much wounds while destro side it has only to black orcs
dam phantom swodmasters ''healers '' will continue run around. like there is no ather blades for swordmasters
p.s and wp still refuse run rightounes tactic (what would be for more burst damage) even healmasters (swordmasters) run around as ''healers''. i think some order are special like wooden axe with iron stick.
even they will get huuuuuuge buffs they still has previous thinking.
p.s.s wh aoe armor debuff is good byt they have 0 spots in wb
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:22 am
by rady
Fenris78 wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:23 am
rady wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:54 am
Looks like black orc is now the only tank without proper self armor buff...
Da Greenest War Bellow is a self and group armour buff.
I understand that. What I'm saying is that BO is the only tank that can't buff own armor for 594 like every other tank. It only has group buff for 396.
For example knight has 396 group buff and can have also 594 self buff.
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:00 am
by Paxsanarion
rady wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:22 am
Fenris78 wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:23 am
rady wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:54 am
Looks like black orc is now the only tank without proper self armor buff...
Da Greenest War Bellow is a self and group armour buff.
I understand that. What I'm saying is that BO is the only tank that can't buff own armor for 594 like every other tank. It only has group buff for 396.
For example knight has 396 group buff and can have also 594 self buff.
Does Black Orc still have its armor debuff with Wot Armor? I think that is a pretty big debuff? Not sure if that is part of the reason? I don’t think knight or SM have armor debuff ability. Destro more offensive and order defensive realm? Just throwing ideas out
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:10 am
by rady
Paxsanarion wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:00 am
rady wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:22 am
Fenris78 wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:23 am
Da Greenest War Bellow is a self and group armour buff.
I understand that. What I'm saying is that BO is the only tank that can't buff own armor for 594 like every other tank. It only has group buff for 396.
For example knight has 396 group buff and can have also 594 self buff.
Does Black Orc still have its armor debuff with Wot Armor? I think that is a pretty big debuff? Not sure if that is part of the reason? I don’t think knight or SM have armor debuff ability. Destro more offensive and order defensive realm? Just throwing ideas out
Correct. SM does mostly spirit dmg and debuffs resistances, just like chosen. BG, BO and IB have armor debuffs. For some reason only knight can't debuff armor.
I'm bringing this topic because BO had self armor buff that was changed to parry buff and now is the only tank that can't buff his own armor for the same value as other tanks.
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:19 am
by DevanShell
Awesome Patch! Keep up the great work
Re: Patch Notes 14/07/2025
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:38 am
by Akalukz
This seems like a very trivial change, and not sure why it was done. Many classes have 2 group wide buffs. Not sure why magus needed a nerf.
Daemonic Resistance - Reworked to: Enchantment. 35 AP. 100 ft range. Instant. 10s CD. - You surround a single group member with daemonic resistance, increasing their Resistances by 360 for 60 minutes.