low levels get shaft

[Psychopski]

Stop whinging it don’t take long to hit 40

Terrible attitude. Sounds like you care nothing about the community or sustaining/growing the player base. There's a lot of other options out there for gamers. There's a mass exodus from the game when Fort hits. Eventually some people will just take their gaming elsewhere but you don't care about that or you dont comprehend how things work.

[Hargrim]

All the mechanics I described currently exist in game.

If it doesn't happen when you play it now it doesn't currently exist in game.

[adamthelc]

Stop whinging it don’t take long to hit 40

Terrible attitude. Sounds like you care nothing about the community or sustaining/growing the player base. There's a lot of other options out there for gamers. There's a mass exodus from the game when Fort hits. Eventually some people will just take their gaming elsewhere but you don't care about that or you dont comprehend how things work.

Giving in to every whine or complaint is probably not the best way to sustain or grow the player base. People act like they are the first ones to ever have to go through the leveling process. We know it can suck, we have all done it.

Who wants to play with a bunch of bitches who will only play if they get whatever they want anyway?

Leveling isnt that hard, dont give yourself false expectations about what your power level is going to be while you level. Even though it's really not bad.

If you want to feel how bad it can really be or how much of a shaft low levels could be getting, go queue for the ironclad under level 10.

I play a lot of mid tier and actually love it when RvR hits a fort. More scenarios in that tier pop, or at least that's my perception.

[havartii]

good talk, we will give devs the time to stress test. But good lord stop locking zones for low ranks when it's done

[Psychopski]

Stop whinging it don’t take long to hit 40

Terrible attitude. Sounds like you care nothing about the community or sustaining/growing the player base. There's a lot of other options out there for gamers. There's a mass exodus from the game when Fort hits. Eventually some people will just take their gaming elsewhere but you don't care about that or you dont comprehend how things work.

Giving in to every whine or complaint is probably not the best way to sustain or grow the player base. People act like they are the first ones to ever have to go through the leveling process. We know it can suck, we have all done it.

Who wants to play with a bunch of bitches who will only play if they get whatever they want anyway?

Leveling isnt that hard, dont give yourself false expectations about what your power level is going to be while you level. Even though it's really not bad.

If you want to feel how bad it can really be or how much of a shaft low levels could be getting, go queue for the ironclad under level 10.

I play a lot of mid tier and actually love it when RvR hits a fort. More scenarios in that tier pop, or at least that's my perception.

Another absolutely disgusting and terrible attitude to have towards your fellow community members. Basically calling other community members "bitches" and then following up with the mindless, childish "get gud" attitude. Absolutely abhorrent and so thoughtless, totally out of touch with the big picture. Leveling up and getting to 40 is part of the experience, smart guy.

Nobody's asking for handouts you simpleton. Who said leveling is hard? I had almost one of every class at 40 when the game was live. I don't even actually have a problem with the current system. However, I know for a fact a LOT of new players and a lot of casual players that are new to WAR do. Especially the first time or brand new WAR players. Don't you want them to hang around for the long haul? Or are they just whiney "bitches" in your book?


Players simply want something to do when the forts going on. Don't you want those "low levels' to keep playing the game? Or are you so close minded that you dont comprehend that giving EVERYONE something to do when the fort is going on is actually a good thing for the community, for player retention, and for building a healthy and long lasting player base?

[Deadkiller]

Sry nvm i posted in wrong topic

[adamthelc]

Terrible attitude. Sounds like you care nothing about the community or sustaining/growing the player base. There's a lot of other options out there for gamers. There's a mass exodus from the game when Fort hits. Eventually some people will just take their gaming elsewhere but you don't care about that or you dont comprehend how things work.

Giving in to every whine or complaint is probably not the best way to sustain or grow the player base. People act like they are the first ones to ever have to go through the leveling process. We know it can suck, we have all done it.

Who wants to play with a bunch of bitches who will only play if they get whatever they want anyway?

Leveling isnt that hard, dont give yourself false expectations about what your power level is going to be while you level. Even though it's really not bad.

If you want to feel how bad it can really be or how much of a shaft low levels could be getting, go queue for the ironclad under level 10.

I play a lot of mid tier and actually love it when RvR hits a fort. More scenarios in that tier pop, or at least that's my perception.

Another absolutely disgusting and terrible attitude to have towards your fellow community members. Basically calling other community members "bitches" and then following up with the mindless, childish "get gud" attitude. Absolutely abhorrent and so thoughtless, totally out of touch with the big picture. Leveling up and getting to 40 is part of the experience, smart guy.

Nobody's asking for handouts you simpleton. Who said leveling is hard? I had almost one of every class at 40 when the game was live. I don't even actually have a problem with the current system. However, I know for a fact a LOT of new players and a lot of casual players that are new to WAR do. Especially the first time or brand new WAR players. Don't you want them to hang around for the long haul? Or are they just whiney "bitches" in your book?


Players simply want something to do when the forts going on. Don't you want those "low levels' to keep playing the game? Or are you so close minded that you dont comprehend that giving EVERYONE something to do when the fort is going on is actually a good thing for the community, for player retention, and for building a healthy and long lasting player base?

I reject the idea that some change in this vein needs to be made in order to improve player retention. The type of player that cant be bothered to level is going to find some other reason to stop playing, even if you make leveling exactly the way they want it.

You can get hung up on my vocabulary all you want, I dont really care what you think. You can also try to insult me directly by calling me names, doesnt bother me.

I didnt say anything that should have given off a "get gud attitude". I just get annoyed by people complaining about everything. You thinking that about what I said, says a lot about you though. I actually try to help people who are really bad often. Everyone was relatively bad at some point. Some people just take offense to any kind of constructive criticism.

Broad strokes, yes, if someone complains all of the time I would consider them a bitch.

A PvP zone should have always been open, I agree. But even if it wasnt there are things to do. People should do more scenarios!! Good, bad, solo or premade doesnt matter. Everyone should be doing more scenarios.

[Azerreth]

Nothing anyone does will get me to play PvE, which frankly in this game is meh. So when they go to fort if im leveling a new toon I know I have an hour to go do whatever, before coming back to game.

Its like a forced break is all~

[Livertush]

Welcome to the poor life!

[BeautfulToad]

A PvP zone should have always been open, I agree. But even if it wasnt there are things to do. People should do more scenarios!! Good, bad, solo or premade doesnt matter. Everyone should be doing more scenarios.

The SCs need fixed in T4. Having spent constant SCs where you will have a smaller party, and the composition which make no sense, where one side could have 6 Healers and 2 rdps versus 4 tanks, 4 mdps and 2 healers.

I'd honestly suggest - at the very least - to limit the number of SCs pops if one side cant get some kind of reasonable party composition, otherwise massively increase the rewards for participating.

RoR dont deny that levels 32-39 are disadvantaged in SCs. The argument is they are needed to make up the numbers.

Is it not even a meme that loads of players start new characters at 31? The issues are serious for SC T4:

1. If you want any alt build (2handed tank, Grace WP, DPS DoK/Shammie/AM) you need to grind SCs. You are also generally punished for going these builds in PUG SCs.
2. It takes an absurd amount of time to get emblem gear when PUGing, to the point there is so much redudancy. Certain emblem gear (conqueror) is almost pointless getting, except maybe 2 or 3 pieces. Officer emblem gear is similar.
3. Level 32-36 players are awarded in officer emblems, which are literally worth 1/10th of the rewards the more powerful players get IN THE SAME MATCH.

Move non-40s into a lower teir, or reduce the costs of emblem gear, or reward everyone who participates in T4 SCs with oppressor emblems. Any of those options would massively improve levels 32-39 and encourage people to do SCs, even where they lose heavily due to low levels. If you dont like the idea of people getting conqueror or officer sets 5 times faster, move these levels to a lower teir.