Find a link of that, please, I'm in need of a good laughValnak wrote: I remember vids of Runefang + Emperor's Champion + Destroy Confidence oneshotting shaman in t4. Could do similar to whoever shaman was hotting up.

Find a link of that, please, I'm in need of a good laughValnak wrote: I remember vids of Runefang + Emperor's Champion + Destroy Confidence oneshotting shaman in t4. Could do similar to whoever shaman was hotting up.
Wl and pounce specifically exists to counter run awayalbionrare wrote:Its to balance out the wl pounce spam =)
some order live dev died by shammy hand during alphaTenTonHammer wrote:Wl and pounce specifically exists to counter run awayalbionrare wrote:Its to balance out the wl pounce spam =)
but then a class designed specifically to counter kiters wanst enough to counter shammys and herders
hence RKDs out the ass, triple enchantment shatters, etc
its kinda over the top
the justification for a lot of stuff is run away, at least in many players minds, having done a 6v6 against a good shaman in t3 where there is no shatter it is extremely difficult to pin them down as it should be. Shatter should be changed as was discussed for like 20 pages. I do not see pounce as a justification for it though. That is compensation for WL being much less viable than Mara imo.TenTonHammer wrote:Wl and pounce specifically exists to counter run awayalbionrare wrote:Its to balance out the wl pounce spam =)
but then a class designed specifically to counter kiters wanst enough to counter shammys and herders
hence RKDs out the ass, triple enchantment shatters, etc
its kinda over the top
Penril wrote:So you are saying that a class you never touched is OP?
Go play it before posting about it pal...
Good WLs pounce on a ranged squishy and they're usually dead before I can get a heal off on them(save a tank still standing around in the backline for one reason or another). Their burst is much higher than Mara and doesn't need 3-4 GCDs of applying debuffs worth of warning.Tklees wrote:. I do not see pounce as a justification for it though. That is compensation for WL being much less viable than Mara imo.
Seeing a WL on the enemy roster is a good reason for tanks to not push too far away of their own backline. Not all fights are won just by pushing your enemies as hard as possible; sometimes, you need to apply a little strategy (this is mostly determined by group set-ups).Gachimuchi wrote:Good WLs pounce on a ranged squishy and they're usually dead before I can get a heal off on them(save a tank still standing around in the backline for one reason or another). Their burst is much higher than Mara and doesn't need 3-4 GCDs of applying debuffs worth of warning.Tklees wrote:. I do not see pounce as a justification for it though. That is compensation for WL being much less viable than Mara imo.
Because the current lvl cap doesn't allow the Mara to get its crit tactic, finisher, and still run thier debuff spec. While WL get thier crit tactic core and for now do great burst. Once 40 comes Mara will have the burst of a WL as well as their debuffs and tank like survival, while WL will proceed to fall off due to higher defense values, a lack of a Inc heal debuff, and a pet that does not scale well.Gachimuchi wrote:Good WLs pounce on a ranged squishy and they're usually dead before I can get a heal off on them(save a tank still standing around in the backline for one reason or another). Their burst is much higher than Mara and doesn't need 3-4 GCDs of applying debuffs worth of warning.Tklees wrote:. I do not see pounce as a justification for it though. That is compensation for WL being much less viable than Mara imo.
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