Return of Reckoning

IDK about EU, but NA hardly any guilds run their super tryhard 6v6 me brah setups in sc's anymore unless it's CW. Pretty sure if you just get some people together, have a tank and a healer... and some voice comms you will have 10x more fun.

DPS zealot fits nicely in 3-2-1 groups, kind of wanted to try one out in a magus pull group in place of a sorc so much so that I actually am leveling one up.

Ive seen his dps zealot, its a joke.. no burst dmg.. no utility. inst ez to reroll a sorc ?

Jaycub wrote:IDK about EU, but NA hardly any guilds run their super tryhard 6v6 me brah setups in sc's anymore unless it's CW. Pretty sure if you just get some people together, have a tank and a healer... and some voice comms you will have 10x more fun.

DPS zealot fits nicely in 3-2-1 groups, kind of wanted to try one out in a magus pull group in place of a sorc so much so that I actually am leveling one up.

Tempted to make one myself!

@Dabbart
I think in this case magus also applies to engineer, just perhaps less engis voting atm/people voting for magus as an all-inclusive with engineers.

True that! I just realized I only allowed 1 Vote on the Poll...

I broke up the classes cause I didn't want arguments about how 1 needs to change but it's mirror is already OP. So maybe the vote isn't entirely on point... But still good to see how people are thinking.

Edit: Zealot is a lot of fun. And DD Z can be epic for PvE. For PvP, other than a heal-debuff manufacturer, I don't see where it is all that helpful. I have an idea of a hybrid/healing build that I think could work quite well, I just need RR40...

Dabbart wrote:Why would anyone watch a stream of you Powerlvling... Lol. That sounds horribly boring. Also, I PL people and help out newbies all the time. Doesn't mean I'm not a **** in general.

And no one said you have to do anything. Peterpan said, and I agree, that it's hyprocritical to see you going out of your way to "play the way you want" and then insulting people who want/enjoy to play in premades or with spec's that you disagree with personally. The people that roll in 6man's do so cause they want too. Not cause anyone is "forcing" them.

The arguement of, if you hate getting Rolled all the time(which it seems you do), then go form your own premade is entirely valid. Just cause you don't want too is irrelevant. And besides YOU DO WANT TOO. You have tons of stuff posted trying to get enough for a Premade of DDS Zealots... How is that different? Insulting people for grouping up is lame. And insulting/complaining just cause you happen to be mad is a little childish.

On topic: Magus, Engi, BG top spots huh? I figured Magus would be up there. Didn't think it would be Top by so much though... Strange that Destro classes got so many more votes... Huh

Frist - Insulting it's too powerful word for things im saying im just trashtalking on my own stream.

Second - destro will complain cause order got more bias classes at the moment.

Third - Let premades fight premades and pug fight pug atleast in sc if you queing doble premade (or even one)vs 2 pugs it's never gonna be fun. My suggestion if premade queing on sc they got sc on if her a premade from oposit side like 1 premade order 1 pug order vs 1 premade destro 1 pug destro and 2 premades vs 2 premades and 2 pugs vs 2 pugs and so one current stat of the game killed the pug gaming ad pug gaming was fun in WAR. Here and now you can't see pug fights on sc whithout healers only tanks fights or 12 vs 12 healerfight but that was fun on live.

You just can't ask evereybody go to zerg guilds, make premades, roll op classes - there is a lot of different players out there and everybody desire their own fun.

Krima wrote:Ive seen his dps zealot, its a joke.. no burst dmg.. no utility. inst ez to reroll a sorc ?

>no utility

I've never seen him play but DPS zealot brings...

>AP ritual
>AoE heal debuffs
>res
>marks
>cleanse
>armor buff tactic on hot
>off healing / healer morales
etc...

I know there are plenty of asshole AM's on order who play their """"DPS"""" AM's like they don't have things like I listed above for zealot, but hybrid roles can do a lot.

I'm not saying it meta or really good by any stretch of the imagination, but in a 3-2-1 group someone playing a hybrid healer class with the right mindset can do well.

kweedko wrote: Third - Let premades fight premades and pug fight pug atleast in sc if you queing doble premade (or even one)vs 2 pugs it's never gonna be fun. My suggestion if premade queing on sc they got sc on if her a premade from oposit side like 1 premade order 1 pug order vs 1 premade destro 1 pug destro and 2 premades vs 2 premades and 2 pugs vs 2 pugs and so one current stat of the game killed the pug gaming ad pug gaming was fun in WAR. Here and now you can't see pug fights on sc whithout healers only tanks fights or 12 vs 12 healerfight but that was fun on live.

We probably had over a 100 pages of discussion about this in t2. the conclusion was basically that the server has not the population to support separated ques. Punishing people for grouping up would end up being less healthy than a scenario system in which 99% of pops were pug only ques. Whenever the server has a population healthy enough to support separation of groups and solo players the devs should do so.

Jaycub wrote:IDK about EU, but NA hardly any guilds run their super tryhard 6v6 me brah setups in sc's anymore unless it's CW. Pretty sure if you just get some people together, have a tank and a healer... and some voice comms you will have 10x more fun.

Not going to be tank healer other meh choise im here for 6PPL DDZEALOTPARTYPAWNAGE

Jaycub wrote: DPS zealot fits nicely in 3-2-1 groups, kind of wanted to try one out in a magus pull group in place of a sorc so much so that I actually am leveling one up.

peterthepan3 wrote: Tempted to make one myself!

OH YEAH go for it lads, join the MOVMENT, show the order BIAS - THE SECRET WAEPON OF DESTRUCTION

1. You are the one that used the word "insulting while mad". I responded to you.

2. I don't even...

3. We don't have the playerbase for this, and it is easy to fake PUG as a premade.

No one is asking or telling anyone to do anything or play any particular way. We are saying, there are answers to your problems/questions/concerns/rants. You want the game to be entirely changed to suit your play-style instead of accepting that you just don't want to party, and therefore will get rolled by those that do.

You are using the exact same logic that people use to try and get BiS gear to be easier to farm, or to input a faster lvling/farming system. Those that put in more effort/time will have a better chance than those that don't.

Last time I'm engaging with you Kweedko. You just make stuff up to suit your arguement. I see PUG battles in SCs all the time. It's not like RoR is flooded with hundreds of 6man premades. You see it in SCs all the time, someone will bark about the Premade on the other side, that isn't one. They just look it, cause the SC made a "proper" group.

TLDR: You play solo, with a healer based class in DD spec, you think it's OK to insult/complain while angry then say that insultng isn't the way to describe what you are doing... Gl in Life Kweedko.

Jaycub wrote:

We probably had over a 100 pages of discussion about this in t2. the conclusion was basically that the server has not the population to support separated ques. Punishing people for grouping up would end up being less healthy than a scenario system in which 99% of pops were pug only ques. Whenever the server has a population healthy enough to support separation of groups and solo players the devs should do so.

let 4(or even 3) or less mans group not count like premades it will affect only 6-5 ppl premades who totaly deserve it they want easy fight let them face oter 6 mans TRYHARDERS and this is not punish they deserve a good oponent not roflsomping randoms to the ground.

Krima wrote:Ive seen his dps zealot, its a joke.. no burst dmg.. no utility. inst ez to reroll a sorc ?

Another mate talking about go easy way i ait't gonna do this.

And shure DDZEALOT worthless

ps. and magus too