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Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:38 am
by wos
a full dps am and shammy do not wast ur time with use a heal debuff on them as it don't work on hp u get from damage well that's the way it use to be. in full dps mode the shammy/AM have low wp so carst heals no good to use and using divine fury tactic they cop 25% less carst heals but this gives them 25% more dps witch then get converted in to heals with there hit heal moves. the am gets even more hp back then shammys they get a tactic that give them 25% healing off all dps witch stacks with the hp healing u get from the dot and spam hit heal spell that give u 150% off ur damage. so in t4 this spell was doing around 700 non crit and about 1100+crit so u get back 1750 hp back every sec from std hit and about 2600 hp on a crit that's just from the one hit heal spell there is a dot to but if u a am u get 25% more hp back off damage

draw back is to get this u have to go glass cannon with leves u with low hp so when u go up ageist a burst dps class like sork/bw in the deth in 10sec spek time ur detunt with ur bubble for when u get hit in that 1 sec for almost all ur hp then by then ap drane takes it toll so as soon as the silences where off spam hit for heals to get back your hp up by then if your not dead the bw/sork is. this is also very hard to time and even harder when the defensive gear sets come in

its very ezey to kill dps healer when you know how they work you can out dps there hps or stop there hit for healing with cc,shealds or good old fashion defens doks and wp keep them snaired or rooted KEEP OUT OF MELAY RANGE let ur rdps burn them down

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:45 am
by Jaycub
Yes arcing power is one of the better scaling tactics in the game, and turns DPS AM into probably one of the best single target healers in the right situation, problem is a lot of the times you might not have a proper target to hit for leech, you might only have tanks and those they are guarded to access.

Again as far as viability is concerned, they don't deal enough damage to replace one of the DPS, nor is their healing reliable enough to take over one of the healing positions, so they are left with replacing one of the tanks, in a RDPS focused group... but again is losing guard worth it? This is of course probably assuming the game is in general more competitive than it actually is.

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:57 am
by Sulorie
Wos, you have no freaking clue what you are talking. I don't know where I should start and I won't waste my time teaching anyone how to play AM but one thing, Arcing Power isn't working on DoTs.

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:00 am
by Jaycub
It should work on DoTs? Tooltip states damaging abilities and doesn't discriminate against DoT or state it only works with direct damage.

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:10 am
by wos
Jaycub wrote:Yes arcing power is one of the better scaling tactics in the game, and turns DPS AM into probably one of the best single target healers in the right situation, problem is a lot of the times you might not have a proper target to hit for leech, you might only have tanks and those they are guarded to access.

Again as far as viability is concerned, they don't deal enough damage to replace one of the DPS, nor is their healing reliable enough to take over one of the healing positions, so they are left with replacing one of the tanks, in a RDPS focused group... but again is losing guard worth it? This is of course probably assuming the game is in general more competitive than it actually is.
but this is if u run the std group set up and agen if ur in a group with healer healing ur not solo any more and u can swap out self healing tactic for more dps then u can go down the bad ass dps tree witch hits way harder then hit for heal tree with f all support for you but tons of dps and healer killing to a single target ams and shammys have a long burst damage arc had np keeping up with a sork in dps when i also have a healer i can just do more with out much g suport

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:18 am
by wos
Jaycub wrote:It should work on DoTs? Tooltip states damaging abilities and doesn't discriminate against DoT or state it only works with direct damage.
yah it use to work on dots oh well u only get two good dot and one of them heals you anyway

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:21 am
by Sulorie
Jaycub wrote:It should work on DoTs? Tooltip states damaging abilities and doesn't discriminate against DoT or state it only works with direct damage.
Only direct damage abilities. Guys, it seems you don't remember like anything was and just start theory crafting. This is no base for serious discussions.

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:24 am
by wos
Sulorie wrote:Wos, you have no freaking clue what you are talking. I don't know where I should start and I won't waste my time teaching anyone how to play AM but one thing, Arcing Power isn't working on DoTs.
go for it man tell me all the things i got so wrong with my lack in English skills some of the stuff put down could get misinterpreted and my numbers mite be out a bit. pleas don't i don't want to play a am like you im not you im me so i play how I do

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:26 am
by wos
Sulorie wrote:
Jaycub wrote:It should work on DoTs? Tooltip states damaging abilities and doesn't discriminate against DoT or state it only works with direct damage.
Only direct damage abilities. Guys, it seems you don't remember like anything was and just start theory crafting. This is no base for serious discussions.
well that clears that one up still a good tactic
nar im not theory crafting the shammy/am dps is my fav class just like to talk a bout it

Re: Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:27 am
by Sulorie
wos wrote:
Jaycub wrote:It should work on DoTs? Tooltip states damaging abilities and doesn't discriminate against DoT or state it only works with direct damage.
yah it use to work on dots oh well u only get two good dot and one of them heals you anyway
Show me the Arcing Power for shamans. Otherwise "u only get two good dot and one of them heals you anyway" makes even less sense, because it is not valid for AM. Stop it here, it only gets worse.