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Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:00 pm
by Arteker616
Penril wrote:Arteker616 wrote:Jaycub wrote:im not saying it's any easier/harder for one side, just that killing a RP is easier than killing a DoK.
That was one of the things I'm sure we would of eventually tried (running double WP) if it became a big enough problem. But then you are making concessions for running IB, because you are playing around the outgoing healdebuff. It's just easier to swap him out for SM, and that was pretty much unanimous which is why poor mountain had to level a knight :^)
its aswell easier to kill a zealot than a wp. so what is your point .
as usual the balance forum transformed into nerf this or this class is op.
1) This is not the balance forum
2) I dont think Jaycub is asking for an IB buff... I could be wrong though!
i know its not a balance forum but with the ammount of qq cry and nerf i been reading and realy poor analisys on the both realms problems seems people just want to tool their own agenda in regards making characters viable for they own purpose .
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:01 pm
by Penril
Jaycub wrote:I think people are just responding to us based on one post instead of reading the whole back and forth, like the zealot comment.
Im gonna go drink some zippy water hopefully the thread evolves into some new and exciting discussion later.
Let's see if we can get up a 6v6 for this weekend. I'm interested on trying out a few fights (me on BO, then on BG, then swapping to order on an IB... stuff like that).
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:13 pm
by kweedko
Penril wrote:Jaycub wrote:I think people are just responding to us based on one post instead of reading the whole back and forth, like the zealot comment.
Im gonna go drink some zippy water hopefully the thread evolves into some new and exciting discussion later.
Let's see if we can get up a 6v6 for this weekend. I'm interested on trying out a few fights (me on BO, then on BG, then swapping to order on an IB... stuff like that).
i can't understand why u aiming on 6vs6 game balance
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:16 pm
by zazie
kweedko wrote:Penril wrote:Jaycub wrote:I think people are just responding to us based on one post instead of reading the whole back and forth, like the zealot comment.
Im gonna go drink some zippy water hopefully the thread evolves into some new and exciting discussion later.
Let's see if we can get up a 6v6 for this weekend. I'm interested on trying out a few fights (me on BO, then on BG, then swapping to order on an IB... stuff like that).
i can't understand why u aiming on 6vs6 game balance
I don't think they're, atleast I hope not. Especially since literally every 6 man on this server runs Meta/Double Meta classes so basically they're more like Grief Groups than actual Gank Groups
Balancing around 6v6 is nigh impossible because you're basically only focusing on the classes people deem appropriate for such a small sample size of pvp in-game.
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:18 pm
by bloodi
kweedko wrote:i can't understand why u aiming on 6vs6 game balance
He is not aiming at anything. He is not in charge of anything.
Penril wrote:I think it is you who missed the point. Pretty sure Jay and I were talking about IB and tools to get him closer to the enemy healers. Which is why i pointed out the Order tools that can help the IB in his group. The viability of rDPS/cloth healers is a different topic wich (at least Jay and I) still haven't discussed in this thread. So far, it has only been about viability of BG/IB.
Oh well my bad then but looking at it, still, i dont understand why you both put so much weight into the outgoing healdebuff and not mention choking fury at all.
Choking Fury is what made RP cry in those fights, a rp with mind killer and choking fury on him simply doesnt heal, its like having no healer.
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:18 pm
by Penril
kweedko wrote:Penril wrote:Jaycub wrote:I think people are just responding to us based on one post instead of reading the whole back and forth, like the zealot comment.
Im gonna go drink some zippy water hopefully the thread evolves into some new and exciting discussion later.
Let's see if we can get up a 6v6 for this weekend. I'm interested on trying out a few fights (me on BO, then on BG, then swapping to order on an IB... stuff like that).
i can't understand why u aiming on 6vs6 game balance
I'm not. I'm just asking a player from one of the very few NA 6-man groups I know (and happens to not be a ****) to have a friendly 6v6 this weekend.
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:22 pm
by Penril
bloodi wrote:
Oh well my bad then but looking at it, still, i dont understand why you both put so much weight into the outgoing healdebuff and not mention choking fury at all.
Choking Fury is what made RP cry in those fights, a rp with mind killer and choking fury on him simply doesnt heal, its like having no healer.
I always consider CF, but the usual reply is "there are a bazillion ways to regain AP and therefore CF is bad" and i decided it's not worth it to explain that we won't have all the +AP regen/procs/tools we had on live. It has been explained enough times already. So I decided to focus on the spammable outgoing HD which doesn't have a real counter.
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:33 pm
by Arobain
DOK, effective at too many things at once
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:39 pm
by WorldOfPain
Isn't Bright Wizard accused of being OP by the former Warhammer Online community or did they fix him in the patches already ?
Sry I am new here
Re: Which class would you like to see in the Balance Forum?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:00 pm
by Valfaros
Hmm wouldn't call him OP but in a premade I would say he is the strongest out of all range dd's.