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Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:36 am
by Lileldys
Azarael wrote:Regarding the bomb meta, I have only one thing to say:

Don't get used to it.
Yeh there isn't a point in playing bomb atm when you can just stack 60+ people in one spot and zerg everything down

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:45 am
by Azarael
Lileldys wrote:Yeh there isn't a point in playing bomb atm when you can just stack 60+ people in one spot and zerg everything down
I heard on the grapevine that some people believe that the AoE cap restriction should be removed.

Absolutely mind-boggling. History really does repeat itself.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:51 am
by roadkillrobin
Should atleast be increased. If you don't wanna be hit by it. You can simple move out of it and block los. And further nerfing of AoE will kill the last remaining organized orvr guilds here in favor for what? Pleasing the community that tries to turn WAR into WoW pvp? No thanks.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:57 am
by Scrilian
I'd say AOE caps are fine as they are now. Applying your damage to the right 9 targets at the right time and in the right place - is a skill of itself - and maximising it I wound't call bad, to me it's natural to massive open combat.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:00 am
by Toldavf
Wiping the enemy should always be a team effort. 9 is a fair number.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:04 am
by Lileldys
Toldavf wrote:Wiping the enemy should always be a team effort. 9 is a fair number.
9 is nothing when there is a guild who goes out of their way to get 48 on in their alliance and blob.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:08 am
by Marsares
Scrilian wrote: So to summarise:
- singletarget is much more skillful - the meme invented by our dearest 6man community, that just nuke one target after another with the ocasional M1, guard punt or healer stagger. Much skill indeed :^)
- bombing is one-button mashing - most builds revolve around at least 5 or more and a group to support it, not much different from ST with relatively same buffs, cc and cooldowns. This statement makes me a bit curious about the state of KO bombing in general.
- some excel at bombing but others don't so none should because original purpose (whatever it means is definitely not RvR)
- diversity should come from nerfs but not from buffs - debatable
- equalise the importance of ST and AOE in the game of massive 100+vs100+ battles - fantasy land stuff
- witnessed bombing from the hell pits it came from - irrelevant
- bombing is not fun - oh boy ;)
Your response really doesn't warrant a response because (a) you read whatever you wish to read in my post, rather than what I wrote because (b) you're too wedded to your AOE play-style to open your mind to other opportunities and (c) the way you write in a rather childish and biased way belies a very poor attempt at trolling. Talking to a wall would therefore be more beneficial.

However, what I will say is this: AOE-based WB requires skill to coordinate 24 people at a group level, it requires comparatively less individual skill as AOE by nature is dependant on chance (AOE caps, anyone?).

And that's fine. Everyone prefers a different playstyle. However, not everyone likes to stack two WBs on top of each other, sit in a keep for two hours and AOE funnel the living daylights out of others. The difference between you and me is that I promote diversity by giving both ST and AOE a part in the game, you - on the other hand - only wish to see AOE as the dominant force.

Luckily, Azareal is also not a fan of the dominance of AOE.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:11 am
by Azarael
roadkillrobin wrote:Should atleast be increased. If you don't wanna be hit by it. You can simple move out of it and block los. And further nerfing of AoE will kill the last remaining organized orvr guilds here in favor for what? Pleasing the community that tries to turn WAR into WoW pvp? No thanks.
Nice theorycrafting, but since we KNOW exactly what happened when bombing was more powerful than it is now, it will happen over my dead body.

Seriously, forget about any changes in the AoE cap, either up or down, because it's not happening.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:13 am
by Razid1987
Well, new meta: Blobbing confirmed then.

I wouldn't mind so much, if it wasn't for the fact that the server/game can't handle that. I rather play with 30 fps than 2. But hey, that's just me.

Re: Mara vs WL

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:18 am
by Azarael
Have you considered that nerfing bombing or buffing single target are not the only ways to deal with a bomb / zerg problem?