Kiting?

[Luth]

And someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't FP + Throwing dagger a good way to ranged snare kiters?

Some say it worked like that on the mythic server, some say it worked not for snapshot and dagger.

Iirc it worked with FP, but really not sure.

[Penril]

And someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't FP + Throwing dagger a good way to ranged snare kiters?

Some say it worked like that on the mythic server, some say it worked not for snapshot and dagger.

Iirc it worked with FP, but really not sure.

I always heard about that. Tbh i almost never needed it on my WE for all the reasons i explained. WEs have a lot of tools to stay on their targets. Just gotta start your attacks from stealth.

[Luth]

Yeah, some people play the class like a choppa though and wonder why it doesn't work.

[Jezz08]

How to kite as a BW/sorc solo:
Run
Run
Run
You killed your self

[Tklees]

It means using your strafe keys (Q and E) to face your target within a 180 degree arch, thus being able to shoot them with ranged attacks while running away from them at equal speeds to theirs in order to avoid physical contact. If done correctly they should not be able to hit you with melee over long distances(if at all) and you avoid attacks that target your backside ( WE/WH snare for example).

this is the exact explanation why wh/we is the only class that has absolutely no chance in an open field against any other class, even when wh/we is best geared and most skilled player on the world. (asuming the defender does it right ofc)

pls proof, when im wrong

you have no idea how to play a WH/WE then.

[Mez]

Feinted Positioning worked on throw dagger for a bit until Mythic got around to nerfing it pretty quickly. Right now it works on RoR though. Witch brew became the cool new thing to use on throw dagger. I'm sure that would have been nerfed had the live server continued on long enough.

[Mez]

this is the exact explanation why wh/we is the only class that has absolutely no chance in an open field against any other class, even when wh/we is best geared and most skilled player on the world. (asuming the defender does it right ofc)

pls proof, when im wrong

Flee, AP Pot,.. stun. torment, torment. /lol /rofl /win

[Sulorie]

FP and Throw Dagger might have worked on release but didn't worked for the longest time of its existence. Ranged snare without cooldown on a class with stealth is just OP.
In a 1on1 situation, when a kiter can focus on you alone, it's not so hard to counter the snare. It becomes a challenge against more than one mdps and when they are smart, one of then will get in your dead angle. Bads will chase you in s straight line but who cares?

[magter3001]

FP and Throw Dagger might have worked on release but didn't worked for the longest time of its existence. Ranged snare without cooldown on a class with stealth is just OP.
In a 1on1 situation, when a kiter can focus on you alone, it's not so hard to counter the snare. It becomes a challenge against more than one mdps and when they are smart, one of then will get in your dead angle. Bads will chase you in s straight line but who cares?

Except the WE and WH have to waste valuable seconds on FP just to snare a target. Most WH/WE in groups wouldn't waste a second of FP to snare a target, they would let their tanks do the work for them. Not a big deal imo, coming from a player with a SH main, because of what they have to give up in order to snare the target.

Also the snare has a minimum range on it which never made sense to me on a melee class.

[Moeroes]

It means using your strafe keys (Q and E) to face your target within a 180 degree arch, thus being able to shoot them with ranged attacks while running away from them at equal speeds to theirs in order to avoid physical contact. If done correctly they should not be able to hit you with melee over long distances(if at all) and you avoid attacks that target your backside ( WE/WH snare for example).

this is the exact explanation why wh/we is the only class that has absolutely no chance in an open field against any other class, even when wh/we is best geared and most skilled player on the world. (asuming the defender does it right ofc)

pls proof, when im wrong

You could use stealth maybe? On WE you can follow with HS and if you think you won't be able to kill them before they get up, use FF or EoC (depending if you jumped a caster or not). Or maybe not use HS immediately but wait to see if he manages to snare/punt you; in this case you use OyK. You can use your self punt to stagger an enemy and jump towards a fleeing target as well.

And someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't FP + Throwing dagger a good way to snare kiters?

If the devs really decide to not implement RD you gonna have a hell of a rough time trying to kill any kiter worth a damn. I remember there were some really good kiters back in the day who were almost impossible to kill even with RD III. You know not the kind of kiters that blow all their CC on you while you have RD/fleet footed up, but those who detaunt, flee, pop RD themselves and THEN start kiting.
We will see, maybe without TB the time to kill will be so short that kiters die during KD, if not you won't have much fun on WH/WE I guess. Especially not on WE where you will have to sit through every range KD.