Gearing DPS AM/Shaman etc...

[Sulorie]

Another expert, wow.

[Shanell]

AM is clearly an OP class. I've played it, and I know what I am talking about. Sarcasmilcaly calling someone an "expert" won't change anything. It's an easy class for solo ganking, that is nearly impossible to kill. Personally I did duels with all destro classes and killed all of them, abd the main problem were healers, but anyway I killed them. That class need serious fixes in balance, IMHO.

[Sulorie]

AM is clearly an OP class. I've played it, and I know what I am talking about. Sarcasmilcaly calling someone an "expert" won't change anything. It's an easy class for solo ganking, that is nearly impossible to kill. Personally I did duels with all destro classes and killed all of them, abd the main problem were healers, but anyway I killed them. That class need serious fixes in balance, IMHO.

This class is good to kill pugs and solos. It is no competitive class, neither in heal or dmg spec.
It is easily countered by cleansing.
DoTs are great against unhealed targets. When you have no healer, then it is your fault.

[Shanell]

And it makes AM special class, that can freely solo. He can heal himself greately, have absorbs and deal lots of damage.
While ohter classes fault - "they have no personal healer".
Again, that healer class deals too much damage and in todays situation it needs to be nerfed. In LIveWAR was a patch that increased damage that AM can do, now we all need to rpllback these changes in a matters of balacem otherwise order side have additional imbaRdps class.

[Evildoor]

I think that does for every single "hybrid" class. They only get the option for their "real" role.

Not exactly. For example, WP's Devastator is a DPS set, and Annihilator is a healing set.

Something should be done about this. Set splitting like Sovereign will be the best in my opinion.

[Sulorie]

And it makes AM special class, that can freely solo. He can heal himself greately, have absorbs and deal lots of damage.
While ohter classes fault - "they have no personal healer".
Again, that healer class deals too much damage and in todays situation it needs to be nerfed. In LIveWAR was a patch that increased damage that AM can do, now we all need to rpllback these changes in a matters of balacem otherwise order side have additional imbaRdps class.

Don't enter rvr solo if you're not capable of surviving engagements.
It might deal a lot damage to lowbies because bolster is not working or because the used jewels lack resists. Having no resist buff does it's part.
There was no dmg buff ever on live. They only readjusted mastery trees.
This class isn't dealing enough damage yet, as you lack certain tactics and resist debuff.
If you think the damage is too high, then your DD's are too weak and the healers too bad.
The AM is, like sorc/bw, a class to farm baddies.

[Shanell]

>Don't enter rvr solo if you're not capable of surviving engagements.
I can survive any engagements, or, at least have fun, dying, except of engagements with imbaAM.
>It might deal a lot damage to lowbies because bolster is not working or because the used jewels lack resists.
26 lvl magus here, 21% all resists.
>There was no dmg buff ever on live. They only readjusted mastery trees.
then my memory gotta be kidding with me
>If you think the damage is too high, then your DD's are too weak and the healers too bad.
"You deal to many damage plyaing solo for a healer"
"No, you aren't doing good damage and your healer is crappy"
10/10 logic
>The AM is, like sorc/bw, a class to farm baddies.
AM can do damage as BW/Sorc without heat/dark magic resourse. While being a healer.

[Zxul]

Speaking as dps DoK here, AMs are quite killable- AM which tries to tank me will die. Problem is with the ones that are good at kiting, but its due to DoK Inf snare swords not working atime, on live I killed them just fine.

And their damage is quite manageable- all the drop armor parts with resists mods on them are there for a reason. On my DoK between resists and toughness I mitigate 65% or so of AM dmg, more if I switch to heals and put racial spirit resist tactic in.

Back from live, I remember AMs also being very killable on my BG- detaunts ignore and heal debuff tactics, which are available already, work pretty nicely.

Dps AM also ain't going to kill a good zealot.

WE also should be able to gank them, between KD, 100% magic disrupt, silence, and such, though I have a little experience of playing it back on live.

Actually only class on which I remember AMs being any problem was magus.

[wos]

on live i had a dps shammy and dps am gear was a problem in erly days had to combine pieces off all the different gear sets but usely most of the rvr sets and intell and the dungeon sets had willpower. i took my dps healers in to all the dungeons because you can heal more then a normal healer to a single target( am do this better then shammys 25% more ) as u do the same if not more dps then a dps. shammys and am can instent res when dpsing very handy class because of the mass healing u get back from dps (am get 25% more healing back off all dps ) and ap drain and the big de-buffs to deafens very strong solo class. and when running in a grope you can shut down a hps healer so fast take all the hots off the enemy teem with aoe. In t4 at rr80 just my two de-buff moves that took 250 tuff (mite of been more) and 346 elm restens and the two dot take 8k hp from a rr80 wl didn't need to kite could stand there and go hit for hit with wh and wl. i had had something like 46% crit and just hiting the soft cap for intell even playing my SM lvl26 shammy dots ticking for 450+

[wos]

Speaking as dps DoK here, AMs are quite killable- AM which tries to tank me will die. Problem is with the ones that are good at kiting, but its due to DoK Inf snare swords not working atime, on live I killed them just fine.

And their damage is quite manageable- all the drop armor parts with resists mods on them are there for a reason. On my DoK between resists and toughness I mitigate 65% or so of AM dmg, more if I switch to heals and put racial spirit resist tactic in.

Back from live, I remember AMs also being very killable on my BG- detaunts ignore and heal debuff tactics, which are available already, work pretty nicely.

Dps AM also ain't going to kill a good zealot.

WE also should be able to gank them, between KD, 100% magic disrupt, silence, and such, though I have a little experience of playing it back on live.

Actually only class on which I remember AMs being any problem was magus.

yes the mage killing spec bg am will not scrach them and i think its only the shammy that gets the healer killing moves but i did have problems killing high rr lvl RP on my shammy because there the only healer that can go from full dps to full heals with there stat switch move. wh engi wl bw wp ib sw kobs slayers where my ezey kill targets on a shammy with out kitting but this dus change if there in a different spec high rr lvl dps wp need to kite them high rr lvl SM ib and kobs in defensive i move way from to long to kill and when there in dps mode and it gets close if they time there cc right shatter conferences was the move on the kobs that u have to wotch out for so u had to keep ur buffs low