Return of Reckoning

Avanos wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 7:47 pm

You will still get crit occasionally, especially in larger fights, so Sacrifices Rewarded will still proc.

Dude, it will be a waste of tactic slot. Now you will probably go for Futile Strikes 24%+Septic Blade tactic, which red. enemy chance to crit for another 25%. Absorb tactic, if they keep it on 6sec - will be just another dead tactic, of which WE already has plenty...

coldhunter wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 8:00 pm

Avanos wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 7:47 pm

You will still get crit occasionally, especially in larger fights, so Sacrifices Rewarded will still proc.

Dude, it will be a waste of tactic slot. Now you will probably go for Futile Strikes 24%+Septic Blade tactic, which red. enemy chance to crit for another 25%. Absorb tactic, if they keep it on 6sec - will be just another dead tactic, of which WE already has plenty...

Maybe - I'm still trying to look at it like a buff.. If it procs 4x in a fight, that's still 2400 HP, where before it procced maybe 8x, but with the 8x you are still taking an extra damage percentage from crits.

I need to run it for a bit and test before I can come to an actual determination.

Also, I'm really not that worried about the tactic nerf..
The 30 sec stealth + 10 hits breaks stealth makes infiltrating keeps sorta worthless now.

Panzer80 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 5:14 pm I've been saying it for a while. WH/WE need to be given a unique heal debuff that sets them apart from other dps.

...you got both outgoing and incoming heal debuff and 100% incoming uncleansable heal debuff as morale 4 to shutdown champs in CS. What else you want, lol?

M0rw47h wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 10:30 pm

Panzer80 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 5:14 pm I've been saying it for a while. WH/WE need to be given a unique heal debuff that sets them apart from other dps.

...you got both outgoing and incoming heal debuff and 100% incoming uncleansable heal debuff as morale 4 to shutdown champs in CS. What else you want, lol?

I said what else already. "unique". Please don't bring up M4's. It's absolutely disingenuous and cringe. If it were mad into an ability high up a tree, then now we're talking unique.

Panzer80 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 10:36 pm

M0rw47h wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 10:30 pm

Panzer80 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 5:14 pm I've been saying it for a while. WH/WE need to be given a unique heal debuff that sets them apart from other dps.

...you got both outgoing and incoming heal debuff and 100% incoming uncleansable heal debuff as morale 4 to shutdown champs in CS. What else you want, lol?

I said what else already. "unique". Please don't bring up M4's. It's absolutely disingenuous and cringe. If it were mad into an ability high up a tree, then now we're talking unique.

It used to be meta for CS, when CS mattered.

Yeah I am already picturing AOE spamming at BOs and posterns and everywhere inside keeps.

Devs do a great job overall but from time to time they come up with very bad ideas.

Keep the destealth on 10 hits, remove the timer.

as someone not playing WH/WE I'd say the stealth nerf is too much.

30sec stealth is way too short when also having 30sec CD on the ability.

I'd say if stealth duration is 30sec, then either decrease the CD of the ability or let it cooldown while in stealth with a minimal downtime of like 10-15sec.

I honestly never had a problem with stealth ability itself when playing my zealot/magus/shaman or whatever.

I welcome the change to Atonement which was overpowered. The crit decrease to BaL is reasonable. Though I'd say leave them their stealth and all is good.

Everything about the game is built for groups, looks like they are now trying to get solo Stealth ers to leave the game