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Kali14
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#11 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:34 pm

Being healer was fun in pug SC, same like tank...Unfornatelly I haven't time to play now:(

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Elemint
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#12 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:35 pm

Aurandilaz wrote: when 6 people who solo queue are allocated into the same scenario party, it becomes a "pick up group"
had the same people formed a party before entering the scenario, it would have been a pre-made party, that is, just a premade.
Exactly what i mean. Despite it sounding wrong, the term Premade PUG does not contradict itself, so that group would still be a PUG. I found out what annoys me with the word pugs tho, it now has a derogatory meaning, which is senseless because being in a group has nothing to with the amount of skill ( :roll: ) a player has.

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Aurandilaz
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#13 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:49 pm

Elemint wrote:
Aurandilaz wrote: when 6 people who solo queue are allocated into the same scenario party, it becomes a "pick up group"
had the same people formed a party before entering the scenario, it would have been a pre-made party, that is, just a premade.
Exactly what i mean. Despite it sounding wrong, the term Premade PUG does not contradict itself, so that group would still be a PUG. I found out what annoys me with the word pugs tho, it now has a derogatory meaning, which is senseless because being in a group has nothing to with the amount of skill ( :roll: ) a player has.
eh, anything can be derogatory when used in such a way with other words.
however, as said, most people just use PUG because its easier than writing non-properly-grouped-solo-player

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Loans
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#14 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:58 pm

IMHO if there was the old renown system where healers takes renown for healing someone the situation will be a bit different. Who play a dps healer is definitely more efficient if you play solo speaking about renown/currency grind.

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Re: SC with no healer

Post#15 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:59 pm

As I like to say " NO HEALS NO FUN" confirms in Mourkain Temple.

I can boldly say that in 95% of cases ( Scenarios) lack of heals( with or without guard) results of loos.By lack of heals i mean lesser heal output ( ST or AOE) that opposite side DPS output (focus or bomb)... which plainly means out heal DPS of oppossite team by any meant plain heal or mittigation( guard most common).

Morkain temple mechanic force you to gather in one place which dont give dissadvantaged player any field to manuwer .. either u meet with hammer(all players participating in SC) or u chill in spawn point.

From my experince in LIVE and here ... SC quing system need tweeking... Sometimes it takes 1 HEALER to win SC not 3 or 5 JUST ONE! So imo every SC should start with one healing archetype( it doesnt matter if she/he is DPS spec or healing spec cause everyone have their right o play as they want.) So every side have fighting chance.

ONE healer can make difference in every SC doesnt mater against prem or pug .... also if someone want to disspute this... please contact CRUZCTRL in game .. for more info or to polemize on this topic..
Here is my random SC encounter which proves what i said..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rX7WJR1-Y

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xanderous
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#16 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:08 pm

- Mormonty here

The rules is when you enter a scenario, you play the scenario, if you don't contribute then you need to leave and take the quitter debuff because then perhaps someone who might be willing to actually participate might be willing to help instead, maybe they might even be a healer.

Also for the record, i just joined the scenario and the moment i run up to the slayer to give you guard, who then ran behind our spawn and went afk, which i believe should be a punishable offense.

Don't join scenarios if you don't participate, there is no excuse, period.
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#17 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:16 pm

im starting WAR but nothing appears can someone help me plz ....??

Elemint
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#18 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:32 pm

xanderous wrote:- Mormonty here

First of all, seeing as we are naming folk, the rules is Antani when you enter a scenario, you play the scenario, if you don't contribute then you need to leave and take the quitter debuff because then perhaps someone who might be willing to actually participate might be willing to help instead, maybe they might even be a healer.

Also for the record, i just joined the scenario and the moment i run up to you to give you guard,you ran behind our spawn and went afk, which i believe should be a punishable offense.

Don't join scenarios if you don't participate, there is no excuse, period.

Here is my evidence, proving your wrong doing.
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You're barking up the wrong tree, OP is Limdulgirl who did, in fact, make an effort to win
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Aurandilaz
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#19 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:33 pm

xanderous wrote:- Mormonty here

First of all, seeing as we are naming folk, the rules is Antani when you enter a scenario, you play the scenario, if you don't contribute then you need to leave and take the quitter debuff because then perhaps someone who might be willing to actually participate might be willing to help instead, maybe they might even be a healer.

Also for the record, i just joined the scenario and the moment i run up to you to give you guard,you ran behind our spawn and went afk, which i believe should be a punishable offense.

Don't join scenarios if you don't participate, there is no excuse, period.

Here is my evidence, proving your wrong doing.
Spoiler:
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Really, since when is there some rule that you must actively seek death against impossible odds in scenarios?

Some fights cannot be won, and AFAIK nothing forces people to feed the enemy if they know their chances of achieving any SC points is abysmal.
Doing suicide charges towards certain death sounds like a very stratagem.

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LordPiss
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Re: SC with no healer

Post#20 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:47 pm

xanderous wrote:- Mormonty here

First of all, seeing as we are naming folk, the rules is Antani when you enter a scenario, you play the scenario, if you don't contribute then you need to leave and take the quitter debuff because then perhaps someone who might be willing to actually participate might be willing to help instead, maybe they might even be a healer.

Also for the record, i just joined the scenario and the moment i run up to you to give you guard,you ran behind our spawn and went afk, which i believe should be a punishable offense.

Don't join scenarios if you don't participate, there is no excuse, period.

Here is my evidence, proving your wrong doing.
Spoiler:
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Everything has been said, don't queue if you don't fight.

I'd add that the bunch of rdps hiding behind their healer line and doing nothing but hitting shield tanks make me crazy as well !
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