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tomato
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#41 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:12 pm

Mez wrote:Sir, I have learned something today. Wow.

Now if only we can chain it with a knockdown..things would be unfamiliar and interesting at the same time.
Pro tip: Root with mrd m1 -> engage in meele (another pro tip: mrd needs meele range to deal dmg) -> and let your chosen/bg knock the target down. (Not while beeing rooted!)

Voilà, you chained it with a knockdown.

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Mez
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#42 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:21 pm

Well ya, i understand mechanics. If a order squishie has a chosen on them, they're bad and none of this matters.

It's when Order premades can coordinate in vent to instantly focus you and pop UF and ranged KD, and have a WL pounce on you that is an insta kill many times. Ensnare, pounce, SW KD combo is what I'm currently seeing. It happens out of nowhere and is devestating. In Tier 4 the best is a ranged knockdown, and then the WL pulls you while you are disabled to their side of the field. There's handful of WL/SW combos that force any destro player verse a premade liable to die at any given moment. It translates to fun. At least for me. However I don't know if it's anything destro can come near in terms of cheese level.

it would require giving a squig herder ranged knockdown, and mara pounce. That should never happen in my own personal opinion.
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#43 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:37 pm

Mez wrote:Well ya, i understand mechanics. If a order squishie has a chosen on them, they're bad and none of this matters.

It's when Order premades can coordinate in vent to instantly focus you and pop UF and ranged KD, and have a WL pounce on you that is an insta kill many times. Ensnare, pounce, SW KD combo is what I'm currently seeing. It happens out of nowhere and is devestating. In Tier 4 the best is a ranged knockdown, and then the WL pulls you while you are disabled to their side of the field. There's handful of WL/SW combos that force any destro player verse a premade liable to die at any given moment. It translates to fun. At least for me. However I don't know if it's anything destro can come near in terms of cheese level.

it would require giving a squig herder ranged knockdown, and mara pounce. That should never happen in my own personal opinion.
Even if you get KD and can't do anything about the WL trying to pull you, your teammates can. On my tank i usually used my punt when i saw the pet charging alone to our backline (punt knocks down the pet). Or used my AoE root. This let my groupmate get up and get back to safety.

In T4 Mara pull will make a bazillion order players cry. In your SW+WL example, you get KD first and then pulled. You know what is worse than that? Being pulled and THEN being KD.

Both sides have cheesy setups.

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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#44 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:55 pm

Goib wrote:hahaha

made my day, bro !

u got a range knockback, festering arrow, melee stance etc. the list is endless

maybe u should consider playing destro to get a taste what its like to play "weak" classes compared to order classes !
Made me giggle.

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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#45 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:57 pm

Keep RKDs and Pounce only for Order. Order should be super easy mode as the game was designed as PEGY 13 (yes, for 13yrs old kids) so most of the Order characters are meant to be played by kids to have easy and enjoyable time while leeching money from parents credit cards. Also all of the Order "in trailer" characters were meant to be more powerfull than Destro mirrors.

Thats the reason why Order classes have all the cheese - 2 RKD, Pounce, Self heal, easy to use CC (not like Destro prerequiments like parry/block/disturb to activate the posibility of CC usage).

True men play Destro as its provides challenge and its hard mode.

The "most biased decission" was to unify KD to 4sec timer as it is same as "I win button" (not every time but mostly). Super cheese tactics like RKD -> root/stagger/pounce (sw+wl) or engie magnet (better than mara pull IMO) + slayer makes the game for Destro quite entertaining.
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#46 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:59 pm

Ghostweed wrote:Keep RKDs and Pounce only for Order. Order should be super easy mode as the game was designed as PEGY 13 (yes, for 13yrs old kids) so most of the Order characters are meant to be played by kids to have easy and enjoyable time while leeching money from parents credit cards. Also all of the Order "in trailer" characters were meant to be more powerfull than Destro mirrors.

Thats the reason why Order classes have all the cheese - 2 RKD, Pounce, Self heal, easy to use CC (not like Destro prerequiments like parry/block/disturb to activate the posibility of CC usage).

True men play Destro as its provides challenge and its hard mode.

The "most biased decission" was to unify KD to 4sec timer as it is same as "I win button" (not every time but mostly). Super cheese tactics like RKD -> root/stagger/pounce (sw+wl) or engie magnet (better than mara pull IMO) + slayer makes the game for Destro quite entertaining.
I giggled again.

tomato
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#47 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:00 pm

Ghostweed wrote:Keep RKDs and Pounce only for Order. Order should be super easy mode as the game was designed as PEGY 13 (yes, for 13yrs old kids) so most of the Order characters are meant to be played by kids to have easy and enjoyable time while leeching money from parents credit cards. Also all of the Order "in trailer" characters were meant to be more powerfull than Destro mirrors.

Thats the reason why Order classes have all the cheese - 2 RKD, Pounce, Self heal, easy to use CC (not like Destro prerequiments like parry/block/disturb to activate the posibility of CC usage).

True men play Destro as its provides challenge and its hard mode.

The "most biased decission" was to unify KD to 4sec timer as it is same as "I win button" (not every time but mostly). Super cheese tactics like RKD -> root/stagger/pounce (sw+wl) or engie magnet (better than mara pull IMO) + slayer makes the game for Destro quite entertaining.
I too like to show my superior skill by playing destru.

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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#48 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:03 pm

Ghostweed wrote: The "most biased decission" was to unify KD to 4sec timer as it is same as "I win button" (not every time but mostly). Super cheese tactics like RKD -> root/stagger/pounce (sw+wl) or engie magnet (better than mara pull IMO) + slayer makes the game for Destro quite entertaining.
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#49 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:08 pm

Say whatever you want about destruction but the **** they come up with in their chats to justify how much better order are is nothing short of genious.

They brough us gems like "pounce can be used on allies" or the classic "Bw is much better than sorc".

I dont know if its the orcs but they truly are the side with the greater comedic value.

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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#50 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:11 pm

I knew they had to be joking ^^ Because it made me laugh so hard :P
Those Silly greenskins did it again!

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