Mez wrote:Well ya, i understand mechanics. If a order squishie has a chosen on them, they're bad and none of this matters.
It's when Order premades can coordinate in vent to instantly focus you and pop UF and ranged KD, and have a WL pounce on you that is an insta kill many times. Ensnare, pounce, SW KD combo is what I'm currently seeing. It happens out of nowhere and is devestating. In Tier 4 the best is a ranged knockdown, and then the WL pulls you while you are disabled to their side of the field. There's handful of WL/SW combos that force any destro player verse a premade liable to die at any given moment. It translates to fun. At least for me. However I don't know if it's anything destro can come near in terms of cheese level.
it would require giving a squig herder ranged knockdown, and mara pounce. That should never happen in my own personal opinion.
Even if you get KD and can't do anything about the WL trying to pull you, your teammates can. On my tank i usually used my punt when i saw the pet charging alone to our backline (punt knocks down the pet). Or used my AoE root. This let my groupmate get up and get back to safety.
In T4 Mara pull will make a bazillion order players cry. In your SW+WL example, you get KD first and then pulled. You know what is worse than that? Being pulled and THEN being KD.
Both sides have cheesy setups.