[Black Guard]2H Disparity between IB?

[bloodi]

I on the other hand, tried my best to be unreasonable, never used logic and only attacked arguments but i guess its also a waste of time. I honestly only have something to prove in thhe forums, and that is only to everyone else, I am not sorry for posting on thhis thread and making everyone have to read me.

If it wasnt clear, the above is sarcasm.

I guess that from now on i will do like all of you and call troll and rude to everyone who disagrees with me, i am sure this will make the forums a much better place once we only hear opinions we agree on.

I gave my arguments, take them as you will, i wont shed a tear because you think i hurt your feelings.

[TenTonHammer]

I thought so too but turns out is about how BGs are now the most useless class on destruction when there is a marauder around.

Live to **** see i guess.

When you have compare something, something will be the best and something out of that set will be the worst

case and point slayer is the best mdps on order and wl is "the worst"

get what im sayin?

note that nowhere did me and gob say anything of the sort that BG is a dogshit class or the worst class on destro or what ever you think we are saying we simply stated that now of the 3 tanks in destro bg is the weakest take that however you will

if we ranked the 3 tanks on a scale of 1-10

with
10-chosen
8-BO
7-BG

you can see that the diffrence in scale between BO n BG might not be that signififcant but it wouldnt change the fact that BG is still the weakest destro tank and their are a variety of reason for this the main ones being how importan stat steal and auras are

and yes bloodi, how maras debuffs make some of BGs best tools redundant

[Tklees]

You did fine. Your arguments, while unproven (have to wait and see what t4 is like for BO), where logical and presented in a proper manner. The flaming that took place after that as many have said was unwarranted. There are more healthy ways to have discussion. Had bloodi presented his argument in a more civil manner I think we could have had a very good discussion. So keep up the talk and get it back on track. 2h bg v 2h ib.

[Tklees]

I on the other hand, tried my best to be unreasonable, never used logic and only attacked arguments but i guess its also a waste of time. I honestly only have something to prove in thhe forums, and that is only to everyone else, I am not sorry for posting on thhis thread and making everyone have to read me.

If it wasnt clear, the above is sarcasm.

I guess that from now on i will do like all of you and call troll and rude to everyone who disagrees with me, i am sure this will make the forums a much better place once we only hear opinions we agree on.

I gave my arguments, take them as you will, i wont shed a tear because you think i hurt your feelings.

It's not that you weren't logical or that you didn't present a good argument against the post. It's that your opening post involved flaming someone and it continued through out the rest of your posts.

[Razid1987]

I guess that from now on i will do like all of you and call troll and rude to everyone who disagrees with me, i am sure this will make the forums a much better place once we only hear opinions we agree on.

Believe me, you can't make it worse than it already is. Sad, but true.

[bloodi]

note that nowhere did me and gob say anything of the sort that BG is a dogshit class or the worst class on destro or what ever you think we are saying we simply stated that now of the 3 tanks in destro bg is the weakest take that however you will

Look, you and me both know how you always do this ****.

You throw out some exxageration and if no one calls you out on it, its now truth. Its all over the forums, how many times did Stinkyweed post his "My Sw does much better than my Sh with half the levels and gear" and everyone agrees at face value on it till someone calls him out and posts proof of it?

How many times people went on how much greater BW is than sorc even its not remotely true?

Now you were starting with the "Glorified cc bot" for bg, that is what pissed me off about it, i agree completely that the 2h for BG is lacking compared to IB, you two and me would be on the roof of the tallest building telling it to everyone if that is all there was to it here.

But no, you have to start with the half truths, you have to start arguing that somehow you are never to catch up to that RP that kites you forever while, at the same time, arguing that since your KD needs to block before using it, you can never use it when the others catch up to your healer who somehow lacks the magical ability to kite up everyone like the ones you face do.

That you never have hate ever, that if you dont guard and stay close everyone dies witout you, that your damage amounts to nothing even if they are infamous for their detaunt tactic.

If your position was, we think we are slighty worse than BO, well whatever, i dont think its true but hell, you may have a point.

When you start formulating contrived situations where somehow your BG is now rendered useless by things that never happen, then we have a problem.

It's not that you weren't logical or that you didn't present a good argument against the post. It's that your opening post involved flaming someone and it continued through out the rest of your posts.

Yet he couldnt pass the chance to portray it as so.

And we have a clear difference in what we call "flaming", flaming usually refers to an unwarranted insult, i am telling them to get a grip, which besides not being an insult, is not unwarranted when they are in dire need of getting one.

I fully know i am rude, caustic, an asshole and probably even worse thing, however i will call thing that are blue, blue and dont mind getting called out either.

And to be honest, i would rather people flat out said things out like a do than this pathethic veiled insults people use.

Because my **** my smell but a lot of people here like to pretend that theirs smells like flowers.

[Dreadspectre]

Girls, girls...you're all pretty.

Seriously though, can we all stop trying to get the last word in on dumb **** and discuss my OP or let the thread fade into oblivion until balance threads open?

Jesus...

[Razid1987]

Girls, girls...you're all pretty.

Seriously though, can we all stop trying to get the last word in on dumb **** and discuss my OP or let the thread fade into oblivion until balance threads open?

Jesus...

NO! The laws of forums discussions DEMAND that we derail every single thread, belittle every single person, and ridicule every single idea that we might disagree with, and which contradicts our narrow and biased views, on this extremely popular game.

Seriously though, I really wish people would keep the threads more constructive and respectful.

[GodlessCrom]

Girls, girls...you're all pretty.

Seriously though, can we all stop trying to get the last word in on dumb **** and discuss my OP or let the thread fade into oblivion until balance threads open?

Jesus...

Alright, let's address the real disparity between Ironbreaker and Black Guard.

Ironbreaker clearly has better beards. Black Guard have no beards. Chosen bring semi-beard utility to their groups, as do KotBS. SM, Black Guard, Black Orc possess no beard-utility, rendering them useless from a manliness perspective.

I suggest we rebalance all beard-tanks appropriately to rectify this grave injustice.

[incredible]

You throw out some exxageration and if no one calls you out on it, its now truth. Its all over the forums, how many times did Stinkyweed post his "My Sw does much better than my Sh with half the levels and gear" and everyone agrees at face value on it till someone calls him out and posts proof of it?

This statement is an exaggeration.