Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

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Blorckever
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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#21 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:42 pm

bloodi wrote:
notorli wrote:Either way http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wp; ... 0:;0:0:0:0:

Also any WP players know about divine petition bug, specifically if it still works?
Why would you run greave of sigmar? Its really bad.

Also, divine petition is not available till rank 37 so i dont see how could you run it or expect people to say if its bugged or not. Not mentioning how terrible it is for a grace/wrath wp.
Greave of sigmar really bad ? lol

-99 str/ -99 toughness against all target hitted and +99 str / +99 tough for you so under buff i have 703 str and 330 + toughness.

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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#22 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:47 pm

Blorckever wrote:Greave of sigmar really bad ? lol

-99 str/ -99 toughness against all target hitted and +99 str / +99 tough for you so under buff i have 703 str and 330 + toughness.
You are wasting a tactic slot in something a kobts does for free. To all enemies and allies.

Its really bad, like, holy **** this is so bad. Grace of sigmar is a better option in 99% of the cases.

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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#23 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:50 pm

bloodi wrote:
Blorckever wrote:Greave of sigmar really bad ? lol

-99 str/ -99 toughness against all target hitted and +99 str / +99 tough for you so under buff i have 703 str and 330 + toughness.
You are wasting a tactic slot in something a kobts does for free. To all enemies and allies.

Its really bad, like, holy **** this is so bad. Grace of sigmar is a better option in 99% of the cases.
We dont play same man ! im not running on premade 6 man im running on 2/3 whit dps on rvr or solo.

ThePollie
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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#24 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:53 pm

bloodi wrote:
Blorckever wrote:Greave of sigmar really bad ? lol

-99 str/ -99 toughness against all target hitted and +99 str / +99 tough for you so under buff i have 703 str and 330 + toughness.
You are wasting a tactic slot in something a kobts does for free. To all enemies and allies.

Its really bad, like, holy **** this is so bad. Grace of sigmar is a better option in 99% of the cases.
Unless you have two Knights, both spect for both buffs, Greave of Sigmar will beat the knight on either strength or toughness.

We don't always have a knight or two dedicated to these buffs.

Sometimes we or enemies are out of that range.

You can also use it to buff people outside the group, who might also not have a knight or two.

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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#25 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:58 pm

ThePollie wrote:Unless you have two Knights, both spect for both buffs, Greave of Sigmar will beat the knight on either strength or toughness.

We don't always have a knight or two dedicated to these buffs.

Sometimes we or enemies are out of that range.

You can also use it to buff people outside the group, who might also not have a knight or two.
If you have a 2h IB, you get 99 srt + 10% crit from him, no need to even hit anyone, if he is 1h+shield, you will get str + wp from him with him just using his outgoing heal debuff.

A Sm will steal both Toughness and Str from all their group and give it to yours.

And i already talked about Kobts.

Its not a class only, every single tank will give you a better version of grace of sigmar and they dont have to waste tactic slots for it.

Is bad, its recommendable than in most cases, you run anything else.

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notorli
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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#26 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:03 pm

bloodi wrote:
notorli wrote:Either way http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wp; ... 0:;0:0:0:0:

Also any WP players know about divine petition bug, specifically if it still works?
Why would you run greave of sigmar? Its really bad.

Also, divine petition is not available till rank 39 so i dont see how could you run it or expect people to say if its bugged or not. Not mentioning how terrible it is for a grace/wrath wp.

Why would you run greave of sigmar? Its really bad.

Wait first off the ONLY way greave is a bad choice is when running in a group with a kotbs (that both knows how to cycle auras and is running the str/tough aura) literally in every other situation it is an op tactic both offensively and defensively, how do you not see that?

"divine petition is not available till rank 37 so i dont see how could you run it or expect people to say if its bugged or not.Not mentioning how terrible it is for a grace/wrath wp."

Moving on, I didnt realize WP didnt get divine divine petitioning until 37 my bad, my WP on here is only lvl 14, I do however have a lot of experience playing WP, that was why I pointed the question at older WP players (like when game was live) the bug was that divine petitioning was supposed to only reduce the cost of supplication but it instead just flat reduced the cost of all abilities by 15 soooo yea not terrible for grace/wrath.
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ThePollie
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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#27 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:04 pm

bloodi wrote:
ThePollie wrote:Unless you have two Knights, both spect for both buffs, Greave of Sigmar will beat the knight on either strength or toughness.

We don't always have a knight or two dedicated to these buffs.

Sometimes we or enemies are out of that range.

You can also use it to buff people outside the group, who might also not have a knight or two.
If you have a 2h IB-
A Sm will-
If you have an Ironbreaker. If you have a Swordmaster. I've seen plenty of pug groups that have maybe two tanks in the entire warband. You may not have either of the three.

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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#28 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:06 pm

notorli wrote: Wait first off the ONLY way greave is a bad choice is when running in a group with a kotbs (that both knows how to cycle auras and is running the str/tough aura) literally in every other situation it is an op tactic both offensively and defensively, how do you not see that?

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Because there is nothing to see, i already explained it, every tank gives a better version of it they dont have to waste tactic slots on, the only reason to run it is going solo and that is already a bad idea on a team game.

Also, regarding the divine petition bug, if that was the case, it will be only affect supplication here, i can already see Azareal getting mad at the mere thought of such a bug existing.

ThePollie wrote:If you have an Ironbreaker. If you have a Swordmaster. I've seen plenty of pug groups that have maybe two tanks in the entire warband. You may not have either of the three.
Look, i know the concept of trying to spec optimally may get lost on someone running a melee warrior priest but when you are actively suggesting bad choices because "you may not have blablabla" what you are doing is giving bad advice.

I mean, suddenly you may log in and you dont have your 2hander anymore, would you recommend running salvation spec just in case? No, it would be stupid.

So is recoomending having a bad spec because of "ifs"

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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#29 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:17 pm

I keep forgetting this game is all about 100% effective premade 6v6s. Silliness.

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notorli
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Re: Warrior Priest Melee Support Thread.

Post#30 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:17 pm

bloodi wrote:
notorli wrote: Wait first off the ONLY way greave is a bad choice is when running in a group with a kotbs (that both knows how to cycle auras and is running the str/tough aura) literally in every other situation it is an op tactic both offensively and defensively, how do you not see that?

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Because there is nothing to see, i already explained it, every tank gives a better version of it they dont have to waste tactic slots on, the only reason to run it is going solo and that is already a bad idea on a team game.

Also, regarding the divine petition bug, if that was the case, it will be only affect supplication here, i can already see Azareal getting mad at the mere thought of such a bug existing.

ThePollie wrote:If you have an Ironbreaker. If you have a Swordmaster. I've seen plenty of pug groups that have maybe two tanks in the entire warband. You may not have either of the three.
Look, i know the concept of trying to spec optimally may get lost on someone running a melee warrior priest but when you are actively suggesting bad choices because "you may not have blablabla" what you are doing is giving bad advice.

I mean, suddenly you may log in and you dont have your 2hander anymore, would you recommend running salvation spec just in case? No, it would be stupid.

So is recoomending having a bad spec because of "ifs"

Just throwing this out there, but you are the one with the ifs..... IF you have a tank in YOUR group and IF they are running those buffs... Wait this is besides the fact that yea IF those line up in your favor then you can just change greave of sigmar tactic out for another tactic, and when you dont have those stars align for you, guess what. Just stick greave back in, there we all win.
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