Will rifters get punished?

[Epo]

Since I can in fact cancel WoH safely, Pounce now has a height limit of 40ft.

[Epo]

Im surprised only 2 of you enigma ego boys jumped on me, i was expecting your whole gang to jump down my throat like you do ingame.
Unlike you lot i and others see things for what they are and how they affect many aspects, not just 1 aspect of gameplay. I shouldn't have to explain, if you are old pro's from live you know whats up, unless you were 2nd or 3rd rate players on live ? who now have experienced for the first time how it feels to be top dogs. Congrats tho im glad you have something that makes you happy.

Don't overestimate your importance, we assist which is why a whole grp collapses on you and any other caster that positions badly.
Besides flame I dont see any point in your answer.
Not a single issue we are not adressing but you want us to adress.
Just trolling.

Irony.

[Bozzax]

pouncing into the midst of battle would probably mean that you overextend, get out of guard range of your tank, draw all possible focus and die.

No don't pretend pounce means you automatically overextend. Just like Charge (30s CD) it can be used to get into or out of guard range.

0s CD it gives you CC immunity and a great tool for escaping death by melee train when your tank got punted or you are low on health (going down)

[gandresch]

Not you again Bozzax. Can you pleast stop your vendetta against WLs. If pounce is so godly to you than just play A WL then.

[Nishka]

WL's are great t1-3. t4... not so great unless you're 100rr.

[tommyb23]

pounce = high risk for the WL
rift = no risk for the magus

No risk for the puller... I have played both Eng/Magus and assure you that we are quite squishy and are targeted both on approach and after pulling.

If EM/Rift are banned at keeps, Eng/Magus will have to respec each time when a keep is being taken as that is the only ability worth anything in that tree. Melee magus without rift is fail like a tank without heavy armor, tank stats, and a shield. If magus goes ranged, I'd rather play a much better BW/Sorc class...

Either way, I like how the thread got high-jacked by pounce. I think that is damning evidence enough that the skill is broken. I have no problem with the keep/wall pounce as other classes can just bypass defenses. The problem I have is that it looks stupid as F just seeing a toon pounce all over the place as well as giving a melee class a zero cooldown escape and chase ability. No other melee class has this power, hence the OPness. No issues with vertical limits IMO.

[Bozzax]

WL's are great t1-3. t4... not so great unless you're 100rr.

IMO WLs should be just as good as any MDPS in T4 but 0s CD pounce crutch really shouldn't be the "it" making them viable.

[Nanji]

Im surprised only 2 of you enigma ego boys jumped on me, i was expecting your whole gang to jump down my throat like you do ingame.
Unlike you lot i and others see things for what they are and how they affect many aspects, not just 1 aspect of gameplay. I shouldn't have to explain, if you are old pro's from live you know whats up, unless you were 2nd or 3rd rate players on live ? who now have experienced for the first time how it feels to be top dogs. Congrats tho im glad you have something that makes you happy.

Don't overestimate your importance, we assist which is why a whole grp collapses on you and any other caster that positions badly.
Besides flame I dont see any point in your answer.
Not a single issue we are not adressing but you want us to adress.
Just trolling.

Irony.

Your homework.

1. Check the definition of irony
2. realize the difference between being mentioned and mentioning
3. Check the definition of being butthurt
4. Check if it applies to you and morf

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[Coryphaus]

Funny you say the stuff about looking at many aspects.
Let me tell you something, order has better tools to catch up/prevent kiting because destru has the better kiters.
Those are the many aspects of gameplay, but you just chose to ignore the destru part.

You even demand to nerf wl which is already not as good as its counterpart. (Wl is the only mpds without inc hd, and the only one with pounce, see a pattern here?)

If you have that many problems with positioning, ask shmeep or murkels on how to play shaman.

Who? Theirs shammy and herder? and all because of run away?

You guys have SW and Wl who is also a good 1v1 kiter with perma snare

[Nanji]

Who? Theirs shammy and herder? and all because of run away?

You guys have SW and Wl who is also a good 1v1 kiter with perma snare

Return of Reckoning 1v1 game confirmed! (snares are removable etc.)

if we are talking about run away:

40% snare + run away = 5% slow, 40% slow on order kiter though
I think no one of my premade ever said "nerf run away" seriously.