[Split] Marauder discussion

[Coryphaus]

Just make kotbs crit thing from 10 and 10 to 5 and 5

Now it becomes 10% like all the other crit chance abilites like ancestors fury and crimson death

Also 2h needs a real viable bonus as strikethrough is garbage even more so vs 10% parry

[noisestorm]

@Bretin & cohorts: RoR playersbase consists most likely of 90% people that didnt even grasp the basics of Teamplay and class planning. Sad for them being stuck in "Bronze Elo", sad for other people having no challenge. Rather complain about shiet than actually invest some time and thought into how to beat people.

@others: I was maining Destro on Live too and we literally had 1 or 2 order groups that 'sometimes' were even with my destro group. We were never a fixed 6man premade, but rather a pool of 10 people who just played together. And still we won - even against 24 of those "op" orders at once. *shrug*

[Tesq]

As i said, your l2p issue is wrong, i see if i have a good group or not, and i can cleary see the difference in stats when i have 3 ppl hitting 1 slayer and not even drop it under 90% life dosen't mean bad group composition.

that 10% crit is making the difference atm, it's a build issue not a l2p, came on forum and post your wonderfull rooster where 1 imcomplete preamde goes vs 2 is not a good exemple man.
If you feel your pen big, that's exatly the problem.


just an exemple 500 damage with no crit , not proc, istant done, with 3 skills + auto attack. by a petfrom a random wl.... now, think if some of these would have crit, that would have been like 700 damages (around) istant by a pet. There are still wl damage to count for istant 1k damage under guards done by 1 ppl.

Order is using the same strategy as for the bw+fest arrow combo, not let any destru play, they put all damage togheter, they have big burst which you cant compete because they have more heal and more dps which allow them do litteraly what they want.
Of course we can't keep pressure, when your wp have a permament abosrb every crit do 50% heal more and 50% damage more+ procs+ wl pets damage that can also use proc damage, that can also do 3 skill + auto attack togheter that can also ista proc 4x x proc buff you have.


but things is simple tell me if you get 1 slayer 1 wl 2 wp 1 kobs and then 1 ib/sm , what we should bring? how we should couter your crit, clary if it's a l2p issue you can enlight me what we do wrong dps side.
And pelase tell me your wonderfull destry compositon togheter with critical tactis we need to use to coutner your order premade, if we improive that should be agood challenge....

[noisestorm]

Just make kotbs crit thing from 10 and 10 to 5 and 5

Now it becomes 10% like all the other crit chance abilites like ancestors fury and crimson death

Also 2h needs a real viable bonus as strikethrough is garbage even more so vs 10% parry

2h afaik already got 10% Parry strikethrough. (instead of block)

[Coryphaus]

Why can't 2hs just come with 10% parry

They still have the advantage of faster attack speed and stuff

[noisestorm]

@Tesq.. I am baffled by how youre literally always complaining about Order, when Destro can do pretty much the same. It IS a l2p problem in fact. The point that a group of 6 players can rek the same sh*t on Destro against any order group and also premades there is proof of the fact that people are simply f*cking bad. Deal with it. F*cking deal with it.

[Bretin]

roll order and we will stomp you on bg bo mrd choppa double dok which is our main setup for sure. gonna give you a 30 sec l2p issue before you will come to forums again and cry tears about how op mrd is. the difference between us is that our knowledge is based on longtime group play experience while yours is based on excel and word.

check the 6vs6 videos on my stream. we won without 50% hd and lvl 23 chosen against the best order premade when they had the mighy double slayer ib kotbs combo which is called op by many. also we won against kotbs wl ib sl in 30 sec..

[noisestorm]

I BEG you Tesq and whoever says differently: Battle those guys in a 6v6 with whatever you want and eat sh*t. I am normally not fanboying ANYONE besides Aza, but in this case, those peeps are pretty much the nemesis youre all having.

[Tesq]

roll order and we will stomp you on bg bo mrd choppa double dok which is our main setup for sure. gonna give you a 30 sec l2p issue before you will come to forums again and cry tears about how op mrd is. the difference between us is that our knowledge is based on longtime group play experience while yours is based on excel and word.

check the 6vs6 videos on my stream. we won without 50% hd and lvl 23 chosen against the best order premade when they had the mighy double slayer ib kotbs combo which is called op by many. also we won against kotbs wl ib sl..

best here and best there, i wanna see wrote heresomething...

i hardly belive all of this, the difference in the build is clear

10%more to crit chance
10% more to heal chance

melee train = lots of hit = more chance to crit.
aoe heal= permanent absorb + better heals = 1) better def healer 2) better healing

the skill can make the difference but when 2 skill group play the best set up won, no matter what, even more here on warhammer.

[Tesq]

I BEG you Tesq and whoever says differently: Battle those guys in a 6v6 with whatever you want and eat sh*t. I am normally not fanboying ANYONE besides Aza, but in this case, those peeps are pretty much the nemesis youre all having.

we alredy eat **** in sc every day due to these unbalange set up, i mean tell me exatly which on destru balance a 10% +
10% crit tactic atm.

i'm still waiting for this answer, cos if it's a l2p issue, then we have somethign that match that tactic otherwise i am right and these ppl are wrong.

i' m waiting,i'm waiting, i'm still waiting...

the best is that i didn't even point the finger to these ppl that they alredy jump here to wrote something against it, they didn't even try try to use logical reason like counter my argument of how crit tactic do not make their party set up better ( of course it does otherwise they would not always run 1 kobs with +10% crit).

Nor they talk about loyal pet add on .