T3 delayed until lag fix . Goal impossible ?

[thullonse]

we're still in ALPHA TESTING

this, this, this!
hence why i dont understand that we need a grind currently. or why we are not allowed to level to 40. literally every discussion about balance currently is irrelevant because every class doesnt has a full kit of abilitys.
tbh i dont care that much for a t3 release because it will be nothing different from t2 except for a higher levelcap+some new armor+2 doors to take down instead of 1 in rvr. but with the release of t3 there will be a huge wave of players returning and new ones which will cause heavy lags.

bla bla bla maybe because t4 zones are not finished all spells lvl 30 + are not coded at all yet jesus
it it would be ready we would have t4 already but it takes all alot of time and we do this in our spare time when you guys play i code my char is lvl 13 i spend hundrets of hours looking at hex packets to figure out how they work and how to replicate them to make things work like crafting mastery renown alt appearance then code those features fixed thousends of items in the dbs it just takes time and sometime even wee need a bit offtime to get down and find new motivation to continue
we are no company we dont get payed for this we are basilcy just 2 coders that work on this compare that to what mythic had

i know that t4 is not ready also i know that some spells for 30+ are not coded yet. heck there are even some abilitys which are bugged and or exploitable already available.
my point is just that currently i feel that we are not playing an alpha where everything is easylie obtainable, and im mainly talking about leveling here. i would gladly level up every character to 26 and test every single ability for bugs and exploitative behaviour but in all seriousness thats currently not possible. and even if you report a bug with a class ability the chances are high that you get flamed ingame for pointing out broken stuff.
also we have an ongoing marauder discussion which reached 60 pages now but its completly pointless to talk about that kind of balancing issues when we dont have everything available yet(ability wise)

[warhammer1995]

wtf is going on with people,it will not help devs fix lag,they spend time asnwer your question,Dev Diary already told whats is goin on

[Luth]

my point is just that currently i feel that we are not playing an alpha where everything is easylie obtainable, and im mainly talking about leveling here. i would gladly level up every character to 26 and test every single ability for bugs and exploitative behaviour but in all seriousness thats currently not possible. and even if you report a bug with a class ability the chances are high that you get flamed ingame for pointing out broken stuff.

There is no wipe planned after the alpha, so this server is the real game environment where all rules of a normal server apply.
Imo there are enough lvl 26 players around on every class to discover and report the bugs that made it through internal testing.
If this would be a "real" alpha with a planned wipe at the end, the server would not have 7xx players at peak times; it would have probably less than 5x after a while and any mass PvP issues/mechanics could never be tested.
If you get insults from players cause you reported bugs, just make a screenshot of the chatwindow and report it to a GM.
No reason to stop reporting bugs because of some idiots.



And to all the idiots, who think they are smart and try to hide/exploit every bug they profit from:

We already had a serverwide gold+item wipe, because a handful of shitheads thought they are smart too.
This behaviour just leads directly to the next wipe (+ banned accounts ofc...) and it also lowers the motivation of the devteam to go on with this project.

So maybe instead of your ass, you want to consult your brain first when you think the next time
"OMG, dis is working?? I wonder if i should report this, or ...".

Thanks a lot.

[thullonse]

my point is just that currently i feel that we are not playing an alpha where everything is easylie obtainable, and im mainly talking about leveling here. i would gladly level up every character to 26 and test every single ability for bugs and exploitative behaviour but in all seriousness thats currently not possible. and even if you report a bug with a class ability the chances are high that you get flamed ingame for pointing out broken stuff.

There is no wipe planned after the alpha, so this server is the real game environment where all rules of a normal server apply.
Imo there are enough lvl 26 players around on every class to discover and report the bugs that made it through internal testing.
If this would be a "real" alpha with a planned wipe at the end, the server would not have 7xx players at peak times; it would have probably less than 5x after a while and any mass PvP issues/mechanics could never be tested.
If you get insults from players cause you reported bugs, just make a screenshot of the chatwindow and report it to a GM.
No reason to stop reporting bugs because of some idiots.



And to all the idiots, who think they are smart and try to hide/exploit every bug they profit from:

We already had a serverwide gold+item wipe, because a handful of shitheads thought they are smart too.
This behaviour just leads directly to the next wipe (+ banned accounts ofc...) and it also lowers the motivation of the devteam to go on with this project.

So maybe instead of your ass, you want to consult your brain first when you think the next time
"OMG, dis is working?? I wonder if i should report this, or ...".

Thanks a lot.

well of course there are enough people to report class bugs but the problem is that most people dont report self benefiting bugs and the past has shown that. e.g. the BW funnel power bug or using multiple potions at once etc. etc.
imo wipes should happen from time to time. but im gladly not in charge for such things

[Azarael]

and even if you report a bug with a class ability the chances are high that you get flamed ingame for pointing out broken stuff.

If anyone does this, I will bloody crucify them for it.

[ropuch]

Looking at repeatable, neverending stream of "is XXX bugged?", "they shoud fix YYY asap!!" (YYY being such gamebreaking top-prio issue like guild emblems on cloak , most people do not read forum. Or maybe they are, maybe they even are active in some flame threads, but somehow "search" button is forever lost for them. How are the chamces that such ppl will actually raise an issue on bugtracker, if they are too lazy to even realize we have one? "OMG MY PURPLE BOOK IS GONE!!!"

[Vaerah]

It is not an impossible goal. We are not aiming to fix all lag time for all time ever, but rather to address the current capacity issues far enough that we are comfortable that T3 can release and the server will be able to handle the influx of players that T3 will inevitably bring. Will it be a 100% lag-free experience? No. But it will be better than if it were to be released while there are known capacity issues outstanding.

We know T3 is highly anticipated. A lot of us put a lot of work into it. We want it out there too. We are working on removing the obstacles for this to happen. Please be patient.

As a developer myself, I can only say RoR team(s) have done an AMAZING work up to today.
I have a VPS on your same provider and considering it's pretty low performance (compared to competitors) it's incredible how you can manage so much server work without a server farm (or a virtual server farm).

[pgt242]

Scrubbed.

[pgt242]

Scrubbed.

[mursie]

has anyone considered that the lag is due to addons in game? Maybe I'm crazy but I remember there being introduced addons (i think enemy was one of them) that when everyone started using it, it literally just lagged out the game.

Does anyone remember this?