current rvr meta

[boog]

I think it is obvious what needs to be done. You will not stop x realming with the way the current system is, plain and simple. I for example am x realmer. I do not like play Destro. Nothing against the Destro community, I have met a lot of great people and some new friends but I would much rather play my Order toon. However, Order seems to be zerging the hardest and I don't like being in a mindless mass of BW and SW. I understand that may not always be the case but seems to be during the hours I play. So in order to play the game I love in the way I enjoy I was forced to play Destro.

If you want to stop people from jumping ship every 5 minutes you a lock out timer needs to be implemented. Nothing extreme like in live but like an hour to 3 hour lock out timer in a system that was much like it was in live. You are going to deter people from x realming and encourage them to play the character or faction they actually want to play rather than which ever one is immediately dominating.

I can't really think of another way to prevent x realming from happening besides a lock out. When it comes to this matter the only thing I hear people saying is (insert faction) needs to change their attitude or not complain as much and have some realm pride. The honor system clearly is not working, time to institute martial law.

[bloodi]

Afaik, the defense tick happens when the door respawns.

I am pretty sure it wasnt the case of LIve, you would get defense ticks every x minutes but i may remember wrong.

[boog]

Afaik, the defense tick happens when the door respawns.

I am pretty sure it wasnt the case of LIve, you would get defense ticks every x minutes but i may remember wrong.

You are correct defense tick occurs when door respawns. I am not sure if there is a natural defense tick if the door is not destroyed however. The defense tick is very generous

[thullonse]

this isnt about the def tick its about the fact that u get 1000% more rr for a kill when defending a keep

[bloodi]

this isnt about the def tick its about the fact that u get 1000% more rr for a kill when defending a keep

No you do not.

[thullonse]

this isnt about the def tick its about the fact that u get 1000% more rr for a kill when defending a keep

No you do not.

ok

[bloodi]

ok

If you used your brain for a minute you would also realize that you do not get extra rr for killing when defending, you just kill more because well, defending is way easier.

To be honest, the point of attacking a keep was winning loot and rvr sets, somehow developers here are utterly afraid of giving us RVR gear of our current level so if anything ,that would have to change to incentivize attacking keeps.

But then we end with 80% destruction and a wipe.

[dkabib]

I think it is obvious what needs to be done. You will not stop x realming with the way the current system is, plain and simple. I for example am x realmer. I do not like play Destro. Nothing against the Destro community, I have met a lot of great people and some new friends but I would much rather play my Order toon. However, Order seems to be zerging the hardest and I don't like being in a mindless mass of BW and SW. I understand that may not always be the case but seems to be during the hours I play. So in order to play the game I love in the way I enjoy I was forced to play Destro.

If you want to stop people from jumping ship every 5 minutes you a lock out timer needs to be implemented. Nothing extreme like in live but like an hour to 3 hour lock out timer in a system that was much like it was in live. You are going to deter people from x realming and encourage them to play the character or faction they actually want to play rather than which ever one is immediately dominating.

I can't really think of another way to prevent x realming from happening besides a lock out. When it comes to this matter the only thing I hear people saying is (insert faction) needs to change their attitude or not complain as much and have some realm pride. The honor system clearly is not working, time to institute martial law.

That MAY help, but you can have multiple accounts so it doesn't solve the problem.

[Abolition]

I think it is obvious what needs to be done. You will not stop x realming with the way the current system is, plain and simple. I for example am x realmer. I do not like play Destro. Nothing against the Destro community, I have met a lot of great people and some new friends but I would much rather play my Order toon. However, Order seems to be zerging the hardest and I don't like being in a mindless mass of BW and SW. I understand that may not always be the case but seems to be during the hours I play. So in order to play the game I love in the way I enjoy I was forced to play Destro.

If you want to stop people from jumping ship every 5 minutes you a lock out timer needs to be implemented. Nothing extreme like in live but like an hour to 3 hour lock out timer in a system that was much like it was in live. You are going to deter people from x realming and encourage them to play the character or faction they actually want to play rather than which ever one is immediately dominating.

I can't really think of another way to prevent x realming from happening besides a lock out. When it comes to this matter the only thing I hear people saying is (insert faction) needs to change their attitude or not complain as much and have some realm pride. The honor system clearly is not working, time to institute martial law.

I would be in favour of a lockout. As you said, nothing too harsh, but something to discourage people from switching back and forth because they want EZMODE.
However, as Boog said, the fact the game is free and people can have multiple accounts is another barrier.

this isnt about the def tick its about the fact that u get 1000% more rr for a kill when defending a keep

No you do not.

You don't get 1000% more RR for a kill when defending.

You do, however, get double or triple the number of kills as the defending side than the attacking side. And you get the same sized "tick" (normally) regardless of whether you "win" as the defender or the attacker. I'm not great at maths, but that seems like an easy choice to me. And even if the attackers get a slightly larger tick of 800 or 1200rp for taking a heavily defended keep, the defenders have already made bank as a result.

What was the tick for locking a zone on Live? It was in the thousands, right? I can't remember. If there was a "keep capture" tick followed by a "zone lock tick" that might incentivise people to want to attack more. Obviously I realise currently taking a keep is what locks a zone.

[boog]

You get, if I'm not mistaken, 4k renown for a keep defense tick.