Hey,
I'm an old fart so struggle with classes with high apm. I was playing white lion and IB but found them a bit spammy and my hands got sore.
On order side, what classes are low on apm or have a slow rotation. I'd love to know which, melee dps, ranged dps and healer fit this category if possible. I've heard knight is the lowest apm tank for order.
Please save my fingers!
Classes with low apm
Re: Classes with low apm
Hello there,
For a career mechanic that is very automated, I would probably suggest the knight and chosen soft-mirror. Activating 3 auras toggled on and then thats it.
For the minimum expected performance for pugwarbanding, you basicly need to be in guardrange of your group's damagedealers, once in a while you can do some guardswapping but this is honestly not expected in open-warbands imho. In organized 2-2-2 no discord warbands you can also get away with very little guardswapping, as its mostly on the higher-level discord warbands players might ask for this.
As for your buttonpresses, throwing out Challenge on the enemy DPS deathball, applying a singletarget snare on an enemy tank or dps player and you are way way there. Holding the line activation is not too spammy, but is only really benefictial for your allies when there are alot of ranged enemies shooting into your warband.
Above-average expecations and performance would be something like setting an assist macro to the Leader, or assigned MainAssist player. Getting his target and knocking them down with Singletarget KD, stripping away blessings every 5sec. Targeting and interrupting with your interrupt ability and/or taunt. Punting away their guarding tank. But you can get away with being an older casual player by joining likeminded players, and having a polite and charming attitude gets you most of the way in this game where we are all acient.
Other posters might have other or better suggestions.
oh, and also if you dont like too spammy classes I think there is a Sequenser addon but i have no experience with it, but that might save your fingers in some cases.
For a career mechanic that is very automated, I would probably suggest the knight and chosen soft-mirror. Activating 3 auras toggled on and then thats it.
For the minimum expected performance for pugwarbanding, you basicly need to be in guardrange of your group's damagedealers, once in a while you can do some guardswapping but this is honestly not expected in open-warbands imho. In organized 2-2-2 no discord warbands you can also get away with very little guardswapping, as its mostly on the higher-level discord warbands players might ask for this.
As for your buttonpresses, throwing out Challenge on the enemy DPS deathball, applying a singletarget snare on an enemy tank or dps player and you are way way there. Holding the line activation is not too spammy, but is only really benefictial for your allies when there are alot of ranged enemies shooting into your warband.
Above-average expecations and performance would be something like setting an assist macro to the Leader, or assigned MainAssist player. Getting his target and knocking them down with Singletarget KD, stripping away blessings every 5sec. Targeting and interrupting with your interrupt ability and/or taunt. Punting away their guarding tank. But you can get away with being an older casual player by joining likeminded players, and having a polite and charming attitude gets you most of the way in this game where we are all acient.
Other posters might have other or better suggestions.
oh, and also if you dont like too spammy classes I think there is a Sequenser addon but i have no experience with it, but that might save your fingers in some cases.
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Re: Classes with low apm
Yes I've heard knight/chosen is good for low apm gameplay. Thanks for the advice on playing them. I have one at lvl 9 already now and seems nice and relaxing.
I'm hoping others can help with the other gameplay types as I like to swap characters now and then.
I'm hoping others can help with the other gameplay types as I like to swap characters now and then.
Re: Classes with low apm
knight is low apm if you are an inactive tank just sitting next your guard, but a good knight is always running the gcd so it's surely one of the highest apm class for sure.
And the reason is simple, it's because most of his skill don't need any prerequisite to be activated, so you are always running your long rotation between the moment you are punting, swaping guard etc.
Ppl misunderstand the difference between high apm and difficulty to play. knight is a high apm class but it's simple to play, this is not rocket science of some skills you have to use at clutch moments and situationaly. it's all linear and once you got the rotation you don't need to brain a lot to run it correctly. but still high apm.
Comparatively, there are surely classes with lower apm but require higher intelligence gameplay, classes where you are pushing probably less buttons, but you have to do it at the right moments, with the right position etc..
So, sure, you can run a knight as low apm, and just sit in warband doing your tank job like most are doing it, and it works.
but we can't say that ultimately knight is a low apm class.
And the reason is simple, it's because most of his skill don't need any prerequisite to be activated, so you are always running your long rotation between the moment you are punting, swaping guard etc.
Ppl misunderstand the difference between high apm and difficulty to play. knight is a high apm class but it's simple to play, this is not rocket science of some skills you have to use at clutch moments and situationaly. it's all linear and once you got the rotation you don't need to brain a lot to run it correctly. but still high apm.
Comparatively, there are surely classes with lower apm but require higher intelligence gameplay, classes where you are pushing probably less buttons, but you have to do it at the right moments, with the right position etc..
So, sure, you can run a knight as low apm, and just sit in warband doing your tank job like most are doing it, and it works.
but we can't say that ultimately knight is a low apm class.
Re: Classes with low apm
No class is low apm, they all should press a button as soon as the gcd is over. How about limiting the amount of buttons you need to press to start "performing" (IB was the most horrible choice in that aspect).
Maybe try the aoe spec for your WL without pet, you will have to press 3-4 buttons only most of the time.
Or something with casts and channels like aoe BW.
For heals you could try book WP with salvation spec, though a slow healer hurts the faction more than a slow dps. ;D
Maybe try the aoe spec for your WL without pet, you will have to press 3-4 buttons only most of the time.
Or something with casts and channels like aoe BW.
For heals you could try book WP with salvation spec, though a slow healer hurts the faction more than a slow dps. ;D
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Re: Classes with low apm
I have all the tanks in game , most 70 or higher, of the tanks Chosen, and Knight of the Blazing sun req the least amount of button pressing, compared to the others. The BG/IB, and BO/SM need to constantly press buttons to apply their buffs, and Debuffs, Chosen /KoB still have stuff to do , challenges, taunts, knockdown, punts etc.but the auras help some.
you can also set up guard swap with the Enemy addon with click cast allowing you to click on a group members box in the unit frames, and auto swap them to your new guard target.
As far as casters had a 97 BW live, and 90 Sorc , here they havent lvled in several years but still 81, and 60 , if you use Sequencer addon to set up rotation it`s not to bad, but still multiple presses to apply the dots on a target,
As far as healers, had all healers on live and here , between 60 and 81 RR some havent lvled in a few years, got bored at 80 + since had wp at 96 live, and sham 90. don`t play them as often
of the healers WP/DoK, and RP/Zealot are the least spammy compared to Arch/Sham, as those two juggle casting damage and heals to get most out of their spell boost mechanic.
you can also set up guard swap with the Enemy addon with click cast allowing you to click on a group members box in the unit frames, and auto swap them to your new guard target.
As far as casters had a 97 BW live, and 90 Sorc , here they havent lvled in several years but still 81, and 60 , if you use Sequencer addon to set up rotation it`s not to bad, but still multiple presses to apply the dots on a target,
As far as healers, had all healers on live and here , between 60 and 81 RR some havent lvled in a few years, got bored at 80 + since had wp at 96 live, and sham 90. don`t play them as often
of the healers WP/DoK, and RP/Zealot are the least spammy compared to Arch/Sham, as those two juggle casting damage and heals to get most out of their spell boost mechanic.
Re: Classes with low apm
The mechanic doesn’t work that way anymore. It now is pretty much between hots and direct heals.
Healers are the least APM of all the classes. In some situations (keep/fort) you are literally spamming 1 button with a cast time. In other situations you are just casually tossing out hots bc your team doesn’t need much healing.
Tanks are the hardest class to play well but can have a limited buttons to press. There is massive diminishing value on your abilities. Guard, and swapping it, is magnitudes more potent than some dumb single target stat buff or a damaging ability. You can safely ignore almost half your skills and be 95% as effective if you are using your key skills properly.
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There is an addon called sequencer that lets u bind spells on one button letting u flip through them,
Could probably just mash one key with some classes and get good value from them
Could probably just mash one key with some classes and get good value from them
Re: Classes with low apm
Zl/rp are not as low apm as before a healers rework. Quite opposite, managing the 3 class mechanics while keep everyone health up is quite intense at some situations. Ofc you could play it carefree but that means that you could reach like 70% of the class potential.
For a healers archerype prolly wp and dok are with less apm but for healers bigger importance than spaming is positioning, movement and combat reading
For a healers archerype prolly wp and dok are with less apm but for healers bigger importance than spaming is positioning, movement and combat reading
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